Tell me about....

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by Shownomercy

You know what else comes with a SC factory???


A ZR1

Yep...but about 4000 times more then what he wanted to spend.










So spend half of that and get a CTS-V!!!

[NJSPEEDER]

Originally Posted by TronsBird

well the kids who own them bitch about modding them constantly
(poor choice of info)
how much more power could you get from the factory mods?

I highlighted the important word for you. For kids everything is expensive. That is part of being in high school. Old enough to work, still to young to win power ball.

I am sure the power comes up noticeably with the dealer installed mods. They are only around 2600 or 2700 lbs if memory serves, so even a conservative estimate of 20 more hp to the wheels would be substantial.

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by Shownomercy

You know what else comes with a SC factory???


A ZR1

You tell me where i can get one for 25k and I'll be there tomorrow!

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Correction
He has a 2.0 Turbocharged GTI making 200hp (sad, really)
A 2.3 Turbocharged MS3 making 260hp
A 2.5 Turbocharged WRX making 260hp
A 1.6 Turbocharged Mini S making 160-180hp (cannot recall)
and we have been talking about the Cobalt SS and HHR SS that both make 260hp with a 2.0T motor.

So...how does the Corolla Coupe make it onto the list?
the tC is good car, but no where near to the caliber of cars on that list.

Mini has 172hp @ 26xx pounds.

[BigAls87Z28]

Roger that.

I understand you wanted room...but if you didnt, Sky/Solstice perhaps? They make a wagonesque type hard top for them!

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

So spend half of that and get a CTS-V!!!

Funny... That's is what my mother said.... asked her if she's gonna loan me the other 30ish thousand to get it and she said she can't give me that much

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Roger that.

I understand you wanted room...but if you didnt, Sky/Solstice perhaps? They make a wagonesque type hard top for them!

Paul and someone else on this board said they were horrendous in the snow. I thought about one before he said it.

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Funny... That's is what my mother said.... asked her if she's gonna loan me the other 30ish thousand to get it and she said she can't give me that much

What a bitch...ahahahah kidding of course.


Why dont you just go do what you want to do....

Camaro LT. 300hp, 6spd manual or automatic, and fold down seats with pass through.

[TronsBird]

i dont know if you previously stated it, but are you leaning towards pre-owned or brand new?

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

What a bitch...ahahahah kidding of course.


Why dont you just go do what you want to do....

Camaro LT. 300hp, 6spd manual or automatic, and fold down seats with pass through.

I would, I wanted too, but the problem is my car is broken right NOW. And I can't even get to the grossery store to buy damn milk and some other food. (wal mart is about 7 miles away). Can't wait until it comes out unfortunately.
P.S. i dont wanna fix it because to me thats money thrown away that I could use for a down payment.

Originally Posted by TronsBird

i dont know if you previously stated it, but are you leaning towards pre-owned or brand new?

New. Pre-owned doesn't offer as good of APR, in most cases anyways.

[TronsBird]

hmm

i dont know if you like them, but ive driven the new a4's and beaten the hell out of my friends A3 s-line

but, audi has some good cars out, quick stock, theres room, great performance all year round if you have quattro

might be a little exspensive , but, they're great cars

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by TronsBird

hmm

i dont know if you like them, but ive driven the new a4's and beaten the hell out of my friends A3 s-line

but, audi has some good cars out, quick stock, theres room, great performance all year round if you have quattro

might be a little exspensive , but, they're great cars

Love the new A4, do not love the price tag of it (33k+ for the lowest of the low). Same thing was with the CTS, I think most people who have been here for awhile can say that I was a Caddy nutswinger, CTS sedan was one of my favorites and the coupe - well I was waiting for it to come out so I can nutswing some more. The plan was to buy one of those after I graduate, get a job, and know how much I make. My car broke down and Im tired of utting money into it, so I need a new one otherwise I can't go to interview & won't have a job Not to mention I cant go buy food right now...

So yea new car coming soon...

[TronsBird]

my friend got a fully loaded a3 for 35k

so, just shop around for what options you'd want/need and what it'll come out to

[Knipps]

Cheap beater til the Camaro comes out is always an option

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by TronsBird

my friend got a fully loaded a3 for 35k

so, just shop around for what options you'd want/need and what it'll come out to

35k is not <25k

Originally Posted by Knipps

Cheap beater til the Camaro comes out is always an option

I view cheap beaters as a waste of money, in a situation like this. That's another grand that I will not, most likely, get back.


Edit** plus there will be mark up, as dealers usually like to do on a brand new, highly anticipated car. And honestly I'm not sure how I feel about buying a first year model.

[BigAls87Z28]

Im with you on that, but more for additional features that will show up for the 2011 model. Im also tossing the idea around of swinging the extra whatever for the Z28....

[79CamaroDiva]

Have you thought about the new saabs? Steve and I test drove the 93 and 95 and I gotta say I was pretty impressed. Al can probably help here bc I forget what the performance package was called but they were very nice inside and out, as well as awd

[Mike]

aero?

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

Have you thought about the new saabs? Steve and I test drove the 93 and 95 and I gotta say I was pretty impressed. Al can probably help here bc I forget what the performance package was called but they were very nice inside and out, as well as awd

I'd like to own a Turbo X, but every new Saab I saw on their website was over my budget

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

Have you thought about the new saabs? Steve and I test drove the 93 and 95 and I gotta say I was pretty impressed. Al can probably help here bc I forget what the performance package was called but they were very nice inside and out, as well as awd

Only Saabs that are AWD are the 9-3 TurboX, the 9-7x and the upcoming 9-4x.

[qwikz28]

Originally Posted by Tsar

Well it's time for me to sell my F-body and get something else. I was hoping to wait until graduation but one recent development has forced my hand. So my car is for sale (link in my sig) and I'm trying to research a fun to drive replacement.

I'm interested in them in this particular order (all new, no used):

Mini Cooper S
Dodge Caliber SRT-4
VW GTI
Subaru WRX
Mazda Speed 3

They are all in the same ball park, money wise, but I was wondering if you had any experience with any of them, or heard something bad/good, whatever. I want to know it all. If you have a car suggestion you can add it to the list, maybe I'll look at it.

Ok lets get to the talking part,

go go go

i didn't read through the thread but this is my contribution:

MCS- great car, hard to find new because of demand, this would be my choice. Resale value alone is reason enough to buy.

Dodge Caliber- lol but can be had at a steal of a price. i will call this the value of the bunch

VW GTI- gonna be redesigned soon. VW has admitted to its quality failings and many are being lemoned. i know where you can get a good, female driven, used one of these

WRX- this car has serious engine issues. check subie forums for more details

MS3- recently redesigned. redesign is ugly. interior is cheesy but boy is it fast! an amazing car in my opinion. i would buy this over the MCS if speed was a concern. but its close between those two.

Cobalt SS- best performer among all choices, but boy racer looks and crummy interior kill it. i would get it if all around performance was the only concern. but the acceleration fo the ms3 and the handling of the mcs is better

civic si- have you considered this car? definitely the best car for the commuter. light and fun yet still reliable and efficient

thats it. thank you

[Mike]

true......the new si in both coupe and sedan versions are pretty nice.....as is the accord coupe...tsx used to be nice until they decided to model the grill after a mach3 razor

[Tsar]

Looked at Astra's - didn't like the interior. Exterior was alright.
Looked at the HHR - I couldn't get over the big wagon wheels look
Didn't bother looking at the GTI - you guys blasted it with crap
Couldn't find a WRX for <27000 so within reasonable distance from my house, so I didn't bother with it.



I'm picking my car up shorty though




Jake - Civic Si was my last resort option

[BigAls87Z28]

O RLY? I have a feeling its going to be small in nature

[qwikz28]

the mini is an excellent car. if thats what you got, you made a good choice

[Frosty]

[QUOTE=cbrrmike;541204tsx used to be nice until they decided to model the
grill after a mach3 razor[/QUOTE]

LOL@the mach3 razor comment...funny but accurate.