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11-17-2017, 10:06 AM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?
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1995 Z28 Convertible A4 13.78 @ 100 (CAI, high flow cat, catback, 160 thermo, hypertech, Strano springs, Koni yellows, sway bars, 3 pt. UMI SFC)
2018 Sea Doo GTX - 3 cylinders and das boooooost
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Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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11-17-2017, 10:22 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
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Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy
Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?
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Close. Itll never run but mine will be composed of mostly used and second hand items.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-17-2017, 10:45 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jackson, NJ
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You could build that tubular front end for half the price.
Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
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1983 camaro- Scrap
1988 camaro- Also scrap
'05 Silverado- You guessed it, scrap
1988 TRX 250R- Ported w/ high compression on 110 octane- Out 60' your LT1
Jersey Shore Street Car Takeover (JSSCT) Founder
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and once i get PHB, what do i ajust it too?
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Seven.
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11-17-2017, 12:09 PM
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Power Member/NJFBOA Bookie/Moderator
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Jersey = Best Jersey.
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Slacker.
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1995 Firebird... Stock-ish.
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Good. He microwaved my phone 6 years ago, i hope his intake erupts.
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11-17-2017, 12:53 PM
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Admin.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hamilton, NJ
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Originally Posted by wretched73
You could build that tubular front end for half the price.
Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
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He can't start the car, you want him to cut it up and weld things properly lol
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Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy
Is this going to be like FFB where it never runs but keeps getting nice shiny new racecar parts?
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Vent Windows Forever!
The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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11-17-2017, 01:08 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Millstone Township, NJ
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So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
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11-17-2017, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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11-17-2017, 03:11 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
Posts: 4,513
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Originally Posted by wretched73
You could build that tubular front end for half the price.
Next post better be a video of your car idling. I'm too invested in this!
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Way out of my range of skill lol
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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike
Slacker.
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Car is like number 4 on priority list past week. Vehicles that get me to and from work are more important.
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
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I can cut with the best of em, the whole welding thing is not more forte
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
So I assume any hope of a last big push this weekend is a big no?
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Push is happening, but pretty much impossible. Ill have all night tonight and all day tmmr after i get out of work. With alignment and tune being my 2 biggest hurdles.
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Now I may be wrong, but if the car won't start and idle N/A then what is forced induction going to do for it?
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nah, if i were to go forced induction this motor would be coming out anyway.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-19-2017, 08:36 AM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,341
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Isn't racewars tomorrow?
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11-19-2017, 01:11 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
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Here’s my most recent findings, upon throwing the pushrods back in to try to start with stock MAF and IAT, i came across what I think may be the cause of my issue.
3/4 of my lifters have a “give” to them. When putting in the pushrod, i can push down on it and it will give a bit, then spring back up. 1/4 of them have 0 give at all. Like they are solid. Motor hasn’t been cranked in over a week, so is it possible there is still oil pressure in them?
I installed the pushrods and tightened down the rocker on one of the effected cylinders and did a leak down test. Air comes out both the intake and exhaust as apposed to coming out f the crank case on the other tested cyl.
When installed all lifters were seated again the cam lobe, oiling hole all facing same way. However after some debate i DID NOT soak them in oil before install. Just some assembly lube on the roller and cup.
Is it possible I’ve wiped out some of my lifters? They aren’t any crazy high dollar unit, just LS7s
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-19-2017, 01:19 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?
If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.
If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.
If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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11-19-2017, 02:37 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Not likely that you wiped them out. Not sure I get you on the leakdown test, when you did it last did you have the pushrods installed? Is the cam on the base circle?
If the pushrods are slightly too long but the lifters aren't completely filled with oil, the lifter cup will be 'springy' and take up the excess pushrod length. Once the lifters are full of oil, they'll show the effects of the too-long pushrod because the lifter cup is supported by the hydraulic pressure of the oil in the lifter.
If you're saying that you bolted down the rockers on a cylinder, *and* the cam is on the base circle (meaning both valves closed) and the air is blowing out of the intake and exhaust ports, then the pushrods are too long which is keeping the valves open.
If you remove the rockers from that cylinder that is losing air from both the intake and exhaust and it continues to lose air there, then those valves aren't seating. Not sure what cam you're running or what's been done to the heads but maybe not enough piston to valve clearance, leading to bent valves?
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I never did a leak down on this particular cyl. I only did the cyl 1 & 2. Got the same results so moved on. Both Cyl 1 & 2 lifters has spring to them. This cyl lifter had no spring to it. So when bolted down there was no “absorbing” the extra length. With the pushrods in and rockers bolted down, the leakdown test had air coming out the intake and exhaust. With the pushrods out, the leak down test passes.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-19-2017, 02:50 PM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
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Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....
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11-19-2017, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
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I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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11-19-2017, 04:56 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
Did you ever get the proper pushrod measuring tool? Really starting to sound like them ****ers are too long....
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
I'll bet tree fiddy that the pushrods are too long, at this point.
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Yes, new comp cams pushrod measuring tool came out to 7.250 pushrods. 9 turns of the tool to close. Rockers tightened down, zero lash.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-19-2017, 06:13 PM
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11 sec club
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Woodbridge
Posts: 834
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Cut the ones you have, and get your ass to Racewars tomorrow!
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99 Z28 Trick Flow 215s milled to 61cc 228/232 Cam Fast 102 built 4l65e trans 4000 converter 12 bolt 410s Electric WP deleted PS/AC Dyno & Track tuned
2015 ATS Coupe. AWD 2.0 Turbo
2012 2500hd Silverado with LTZ 20s on 35x12.5x20
86 Buick GN Lesabre 1 of 117 (4-Sale)
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11-19-2017, 06:36 PM
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Meet Coordinator
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: brick/pt. pleasant beach
Posts: 19,341
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1ow
Finally was able to get a pushrod checker. Started short and adjusted to till there was no rock in the rocker.
Like a doofus, measured with a ruler and sat 7.250.
Then after Kirk hit me with a
I took out the mic and it was really 7.312. Leaving my options at 7.375 for .062 preload, or 7.400 with .088 preload.
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So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!
What ones did you go with?
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11-22-2017, 04:00 PM
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10 Second Club
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Eatontown
Posts: 1,647
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
So you are telling me the ruler was right?!?!
What ones did you go with?
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I think he ordered a variety pack.
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1999 C5 FRC: 12.7@114
2008 TBSS: 12.48@108
2017 Silverado 2500 do you even lift breh?
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11-23-2017, 09:12 AM
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Meet Coordinator
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11-27-2017, 01:02 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,900
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Update??
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2017, 03:12 PM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
Posts: 4,513
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Update??
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BTR Holiday Variety pack should be at my doorstep when i get home from work.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-29-2017, 06:46 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
Join Date: May 2009
Location: The Meadowlands
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7.300 rods installed + rockers torqued last night. Valve covers + coils + crap go on today afterwork and then we hope for results.
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99 Z28 - SBE LS1/60e
Motor - 10.84 @ 128 - 1.47 60'
Nitrous - 10.16 @ 132 - 1.40 60"
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11-29-2017, 07:39 AM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hamilton, Mercer county
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Ugh, such disappoint with that information
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11-30-2017, 08:37 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 16,900
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Results?
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-30-2017, 10:29 AM
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Resident Camera Guy
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: North Jersey
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The anticipation is palpable.
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