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bubba428 · 03-16-2009, 01:02 AM

my 3.4/3400 is a few steps beyond that. .512 lift and24# injectors, and a few other little tid bits. I should finish it just for the pimp points...thats it. dropping the 3.4 back in wednesday, ordering the last parts tomorrow...buick is on indeffinite stand by

NastyEllEssWon · 03-16-2009, 01:07 AM

the pink one is cammed

bubba428 · 03-16-2009, 01:10 AM

my cam is better lol dude your getting me all exited...I've go too much crap to do already

BigAls87Z28 · 03-16-2009, 01:46 AM

The 3.5 and 3.9 are of the same beast.
the 3.6 is a different animal.
The 3.5 and 3.9 are of the OHV 60* V6. And I was under the imperssion that the updated 3.5/3.9 intakes are different. I know that the 3.9's is with teh dual runner set up.
Both the current 3.5 and 3.9 offer VVT as well.

bubba428 · 03-16-2009, 04:25 AM

I know the 3500 upper/lower intake combo doesn't fit under an F-body cowl, but you can use the 3400 upper on the 3500 lower

98tadriver · 03-16-2009, 06:20 AM

lol @ bubba post! skinnyguy, its best you keep quiet before you are on the same boat as the single bank turbo guy

98tadriver · 03-16-2009, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Im still amazing that you think that this car should be pushing near 700hp. Thats what it comes down too.
Even if you magicly doubled your current output, had no problems, you STILL woulnt have enough to make 11's.
Its not going to happen. Id say that when you fail, you pay ALL of our pit passes that show up to see it. Im not gunna waste my 25 bucks to sit there and see you destroy the 14 second barrier.
You better start looking through old Army surplus for some rocket motors if you expect 10s.

JATO FTW!!!

12secondv6 · 03-16-2009, 08:27 AM

10's???? You should set a realistic goal.

With the power, mods and speculation, I would say maybe a 4 or 3 second 1/4 mile. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 sec 1/4 mile if you up the boost

project89 · 03-16-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

im going to e-town to witness this trainwreck in person. if its half as entertaining as my last 10 minutes reading 6 pages filled with wtf's and desktop dyno numbers.

boosting a block with two welded holes in it doesnt seem like a solid start for your platform build. might i suggest replacing that 3.1 with a later model 3.8...hell even a 3.4.

iirc the 3.1 and 3.4 are both 60 degree v6's and are interchangable. hell it might be worth it to you to look into www.60degreev6.com. also im not sure but you might be able to toss on some heads from the newer fwd 3500 v6's. if you can id look into going that way because they flow better than 3400 heads ported and polished at their best.

theres plenty of options for the 60 degree v6's that you should look into if your actually serious.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...106_193741.htm

thats a video of a 3400 v6 turbo at 10 psi doing 12.9 in a fwd corsica. the guy is on 60degv6 i believe and has tons of info on this type of application and tuning.

block dosent have "holes" in it and it was only a quick repair for the dyno,
i just droped off my spare block at the machine shop to have it line bored and honed, soon as i get it back my internals are getting swaped over to it

as far as that corrsica ive matched his times.every time he went out and ran last year i would go out the next week and run the same time if not faster with the same amount of boost with a smaller turbo.

3xxx topend swaps dont impress me,for as much more as those heads flow on paper,my car and the alumin head cars are all within .1 of a second et wise, and ive gfot 173ci compared to the 200+ those guys are using

i will give the alumin heads are much nicer in an n/a application with guys making almost 300 hp na but there having trouble with spinning rod bearings

60degreev6 is the whole reason my car even went to the dyno

NastyEllEssWon · 03-16-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by project89

block dosent have "holes" in it and it was only a quick repair for the dyno,
i just droped off my spare block at the machine shop to have it line bored and honed, soon as i get it back my internals are getting swaped over to it

as far as that corrsica ive matched his times.every time he went out and ran last year i would go out the next week and run the same time if not faster with the same amount of boost with a smaller turbo.

3xxx topend swaps dont impress me,for as much more as those heads flow on paper,my car and the alumin head cars are all within .1 of a second et wise, and ive gfot 173ci compared to the 200+ those guys are using

i will give the alumin heads are much nicer in an n/a application with guys making almost 300 hp na but there having trouble with spinning rod bearings

60degreev6 is the whole reason my car even went to the dyno

look at the numbers. 3400 heads outflow 3.1 heads. 3500 heads outflow ported and polished 3400 heads. ask anyone over on 60degree its true.

you know that vid you posted i just watched it. the only time i could see clearly was the 13.4. the last one kinda looked likea 13.9.

i wanna see your car in person and seriously look into the intake swaps. 3.1s are pretty choked on the top end

project89 · 03-16-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

look at the numbers. 3400 heads outflow 3.1 heads. 3500 heads outflow ported and polished 3400 heads. ask anyone over on 60degree its true.

you know that vid you posted i just watched it. the only time i could see clearly was the 13.4. the last one kinda looked likea 13.9.

i wanna see your car in person and seriously look into the intake swaps. 3.1s are pretty choked on the top end

i know the 3400 and 3500 heads flow more on a flow bench but ive also kept up with all the boosted head swap cars, so obviously somethign is wrong with those heads in boosted apps.

in n/a applications those heads have proven themselves as the way to go.

when i ran faster then the Corsica, it was with a much smaller motor,smaller turbo and the same boost, that should not be for a head that flows 50 or whatever cfm better

pause the video again when the scoreboard lights up it clearly reads 13.008 @104.65

hell give me a few mins to find my slips from that night and ill post those

as far as intakes i have a sheet metal manifold that i have yet to run

Jersyboyy · 03-16-2009, 06:21 PM

My beater has a 3.4 bottem end with a 2.8 top end swap already

project89 · 03-16-2009, 06:22 PM

12secondv6 · 03-16-2009, 07:22 PM

Times of my wife's elantra:

Posting time slips are silly

bubba428 · 03-16-2009, 08:15 PM

is that the infamous tgo slip?

NJ346 · 03-16-2009, 08:25 PM

ummm....it's still a V6...that's real cool

NastyEllEssWon · 03-16-2009, 08:27 PM

its all how you match up the intakes. iirc the 3400 upper intake flows better than the 3500 upper intake but the 3500 lower intake outflows the 3400 intake. you know just kicking **** in a bucket here but you have a turbo car. dont you want the air/fuel getting through your motor the quickest way possible? if not then you dont wanna run 10s. cause its not gonna happen on a stock 3.1 intake thats for sure

bubba428 · 03-16-2009, 08:49 PM

stop wasting your breath, I know your trying to save face for the 60*v6 but its just not worth it. this guys got a head full of mush. I've tried to do what your doing now. Just walk away before you get too involved.

project89 · 03-16-2009, 09:06 PM

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stop wasting your breath, I know your trying to save face for the 60*v6 but its just not worth it. this guys got a head full of mush. I've tried to do what your doing now. Just walk away before you get too involved.

tried and failed.

anyways i already have a new sheet metal manifold its just a matter of time before i get it on.

LTb1ow · 03-16-2009, 09:09 PM

Why?

sweetbmxrider · 03-16-2009, 09:15 PM

i wanna see this thing go in person. please post when you go racing!

BigAls87Z28 · 03-16-2009, 09:25 PM

Oh, there will most deff be a shore gathering.
The Black Sheep of NJFBOA will be there to show an total lack of support.

NastyEllEssWon · 03-16-2009, 09:27 PM

oh yeah sheet metal works real well for an intake manifold. how hot do you plan on running this thing? you know the colder the air is the more dense it is which means more air you can volumetrically fit inside the combustion chamber, which means more fuel require which means more power.

im done. your dumb. lock this damn thread someone please

project89 · 03-16-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

oh yeah sheet metal works real well for an intake manifold. how hot do you plan on running this thing? you know the colder the air is the more dense it is which means more air you can volumetrically fit inside the combustion chamber, which means more fuel require which means more power.

im done. your dumb. lock this damn thread someone please

yeah cause tons and tons of ppl dont use sheet metal intakes.
i quess there doing it wrong to.

j0n · 03-16-2009, 10:54 PM

So I was linked to this thread and while it started out entertaining, it's turned into the typical lethalrides BS. So here's a public offer for you Dave, Rob, w/e your name is. Name the date, time, track, and how much money you'd like to lose. I will be bringing a true bolt-on only street car. Best of 3 passes wins. Time to put up or shut up.