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				I lift with just superpump, not sure whether thats in your grouping. 
			
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			The super pump doesn't "help" me as much as the xplod stuff did, but I can sleep the night after I lift, so thats a plus.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				The super pump doesn't "help" me as much as the xplod stuff did, but I can sleep the night after I lift, so thats a plus. 
			
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			Never go back to that stuff. Superpump is way better and doesn't make me want to kill something if I take more than 2 scoops.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Never go back to that stuff. Superpump is way better and doesn't make me want to kill something if I take more than 2 scoops. 
			
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			ya i know wat u mean i honestly dont like any NO supplements if ill try somthing else for preworkout it will just be some kinda anabolic activator
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Funny it has no effect on me, besides not being tired after I lift my usual load and then some more. But I experienced what they advertised only once, the very first time I tried it    
			
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				I'm not grouping, I just never used anything while lifting. I was wondering if everyone that lifts on here used something to help them thats all. 
			
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			While lifting for football all through high school and the end of my eighth grade, i was able to get my squat up to 300lbs w/o supplements 
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				While lifting for football all through high school and the end of my eighth grade, i was able to get my squat up to 300lbs w/o supplements 
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 At 130lbs I was at a 300 lb squat....went for 315 and I think that's when I messed my pass side knee up. Couldn't get it up from 'parallel'......but its been jacked worse since 90.....so I don't do squats (free weight or smith machine), but plenty of any other leg work   
I'm not big on all the supplements out there, but the super pump deal and creatine was all I took.....I'd prolly try more if I knew it was going to help me any. I'll has to take Big Billy's word on this....he knows how 'swolt' I am....    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				At 130lbs I was at a 300 lb squat....went for 315 and I think that's when I messed my pass side knee up. Couldn't get it up from 'parallel'......but its been jacked worse since 90.....so I don't do squats (free weight or smith machine), but plenty of any other leg work   
I'm not big on all the supplements out there, but the super pump deal and creatine was all I took.....I'd prolly try more if I knew it was going to help me any. I'll has to take Big Billy's word on this....he knows how 'swolt' I am....     
			
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				hahah i like how you said pass side knee cap, but yea my back got to me after 300lbs and limited me there for a while 
 
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				i eat protien for mass but not shakes and all. i just think all those supplements are a mind thing like my friends sware the mixes and all help out but idk. 
			
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			I think he is referring to stuff like superpump, xplod etc...  
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				I think he is referring to stuff like superpump, xplod etc...  
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				i eat protien for mass but not shakes and all. i just think all those supplements are a mind thing like my friends sware the mixes and all help out but idk. 
			
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 blasphemy!
 
sounds like youre just too narrow minded and ignorant to the supplement world
 
its simple science-  your body uses up vitamins, amino acids and other things that simply cannot be replaced fast enough. what happens? you wear out and cant complete sets.  then your sore as hell the next day. supplements help you get a better workout and recover faster.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux 
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'  
12's on moda? One day 
 
			 
		
		
		
		
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			12-03-2008, 10:09 PM
			
			
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				repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home 
			
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