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12-03-2008, 09:35 PM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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Originally Posted by mc73nova
anyone here lift without using any suppliments?
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I have Muscle Mlik shakes....that's it. And Powerbars.
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12-03-2008, 09:41 PM
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#177
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im not a fan of creatine in general, i dont think its the healthy/smart route in the long run
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12-03-2008, 09:55 PM
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#178
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Originally Posted by wretched73
im not a fan of creatine in general, i dont think its the healthy/smart route in the long run
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Proof of unhealthy? and why not smart?
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12-03-2008, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wretched73
im not a fan of creatine in general, i dont think its the healthy/smart route in the long run
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depends what creatine... and wat results u lookin for?
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12-03-2008, 11:36 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
What are some good ones to take?
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depends wher u at now and what are your goals?
stuff that works great for me dont mean it will be same for u
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12-04-2008, 03:00 AM
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13 Second Club
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i just got a few new goodies in the mail a couple days ago, waiting till i get my new gym membership before i begin playing though
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12-04-2008, 08:17 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by Tsar
Proof of unhealthy? and why not smart?
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I'd like to know this as well.
Granted, you can damage your liver or kidneys if you are constantly taking it and doing excessive drinking- or if you flat out take way too much of it.
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12-04-2008, 11:32 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Drinking + creatine = bad?
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12-04-2008, 02:10 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Drinking + creatine = bad?
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Yes. A few beers or glasses of wine shouldn't be a big deal. But shots and jagerbombs and party drinking and you will end up with liver damage.
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12-04-2008, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Yes. A few beers or glasses of wine shouldn't be a big deal. But shots and jagerbombs and party drinking and you will end up with liver damage.
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lol this is true, and that will happen without supplements too haha. i dont party as much as i used to. especially when im working out.
for anybody who says supplements in general will hurt your liver, get a liver test before and then after. and of course, do not drink while working out for that time period, as it will throw off your liver test results
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12-04-2008, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 98tadriver
lol this is true, and that will happen without supplements too haha. i dont party as much as i used to. especially when im working out.
for anybody who says supplements in general will hurt your liver, get a liver test before and then after. and of course, do not drink while working out for that time period, as it will throw off your liver test results
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+1, and unless youre doing a methylated DS or PH youre liver should be fine with any other supplements as long as you keep your water intake high
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12-04-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Tsar
Proof of unhealthy? and why not smart?
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i stated it as an opinion just so this wouldnt get brought up
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
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12-04-2008, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wretched73
i stated it as an opinion just so this wouldnt get brought up
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You didn't base your opinion on certain info? just pulled it out of nowhere?
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12-04-2008, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 98tadriver
blasphemy!
sounds like youre just too narrow minded and ignorant to the supplement world
its simple science- your body uses up vitamins, amino acids and other things that simply cannot be replaced fast enough. what happens? you wear out and cant complete sets. then your sore as hell the next day. supplements help you get a better workout and recover faster.
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i take vitamins. i'm talking about that nox explod and all that other stuff. some sounds like a joke like theres one out there it says it saves oxygen for at least 2 extra reps and things like that.
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12-04-2008, 06:59 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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nitrous oxide is scientifically proven to what it is advertised to do, no?
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-04-2008, 07:01 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
nitrous oxide is scientifically proven to what it is advertised to do, no?
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That's nitric oxide. Same stuff your car uses a catalytic converter to reduce. It acts like a vasodialator in increases blood flow.
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12-04-2008, 07:05 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Oops, thats what I meant. And got any good recommendations for vitamins?
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-04-2008, 07:05 PM
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Hey guys - go to this fella's site - http://www.joe-cannon.com/
You can see his book there in the corner. He's the guy I took my trainer cert thru. He's prolly forgotten more than we all know together. Plus he's legit in his research as well. He calls it like he sees it, and won't BS either.
Worth the cost of the book if you want the straight scoop. And it just came out within the last year....
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12-04-2008, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
It acts like a vasodialator in increases blood flow.
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And cheaper than Viagra
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12-04-2008, 07:07 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Idk, sumperpump was 50 bucks....
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-04-2008, 07:08 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Tsar
You didn't base your opinion on certain info? just pulled it out of nowhere?
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He dosn't have to. Its HIS opinion. and it is unhealthy in the long run, if you take it ALOT. as mentioned befor.
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12-04-2008, 07:13 PM
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MIR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FIcamaroRE92
He dosn't have to. Its HIS opinion. and it is unhealthy in the long run, if you take it ALOT. as mentioned befor.
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Opinions are based on some kind of information, the ones that aren't are... well worthless, even as an opinion. Everything is unhealthy if there's too much of it, sun, pizza, meat, hell you can even die from drinking too much water. Do you have a point, or just "too much is bad for you"? We were talking normal dosage, and following recommendations.
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12-04-2008, 07:16 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Oops, thats what I meant. And got any good recommendations for vitamins?
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Yes. Puritan's pride daily 3's.
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12-04-2008, 07:21 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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No ill side effects? My mom just freaked out on me for taking non FDA approved stuff, so I am a bit hesitant now...
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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12-04-2008, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
No ill side effects? My mom just freaked out on me for taking non FDA approved stuff, so I am a bit hesitant now...
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What did you take?
Side effects from Vitamins?
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