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Old 05-21-2015, 08:25 PM   #1
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Lets play a game: Mystery Noise



Its not any of the following:
Belt, or pulley related
Suspension related
Driveline related
Engine valvetrain related

Now, with all that there, what would you guess the kind of noise was? I don't need specifics as to what on this car is making the noise, just toss some ideas out.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:08 PM   #2
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im guessing the car isn't moving
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:31 PM   #3
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sounds like a dash rattle or something... maybe 2 pieces of plastic rubbing

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Old 05-21-2015, 09:41 PM   #4
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:46 AM   #5
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im guessing the car isn't moving
Incorrect, think it was a 65 to 75mph area

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sounds like a dash rattle or something... maybe 2 pieces of plastic rubbing
Interesting, that could def be it.

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Old 05-22-2015, 08:52 AM   #6
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Does it do it sitting at idle, revving?

Are you sure it's an underhood noise vs. driveline?

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Not at idle, you need to blip the throttle to have it make noise in park.

Going up and down the lift seemed to narrow it down to driver side, near the firewall, and that was obviously in park, so I am crossing out driveline.
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What did you guys check when it was on the lift? Any chance it could be a tiny exhaust leak?

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Old 05-22-2015, 09:30 AM   #9
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Loose nut behind the wheel?
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What did you guys check when it was on the lift? Any chance it could be a tiny exhaust leak?
Just checked clearance between everything and then Adam/BLS listened with mechanic stethoscope while I blipped throttle.

It could be an exhaust leak for sure, just isn't a very obvious one. No soot build up or ticking at idle.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:44 AM   #11
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Just checked clearance between everything and then Adam/BLS listened with mechanic stethoscope while I blipped throttle.

It could be an exhaust leak for sure, just isn't a very obvious one. No soot build up or ticking at idle.
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Any thermal part to it? In other words, if you let the thing run for an hour or so does the noise change? Just thinking pipe expansion.
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Negative, it will do it when cold or hot. No change in sound level IMO.
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Sorry for all the random thoughts. LOL.

Did you do a full HVAC delete? No blower motor?

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Thats what the thread is for, we are out of ideas so anything, off the wall is all good

And yes, all HVAC is gone.
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Is it in any way boost referenced? Like it shows up under boost but not vacuum? Or the opposite?

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Is it in any way boost referenced? Like it shows up under boost but not vacuum? Or the opposite?
It shows up regardless of engine vac/boost.
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I know you clearances exhaust. But have you checked intercooler and cold side piping to bumper and bumper related parts?
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That says 'mechanical squeaking' to me. Something rubbing under the dash, maybe? You eliminated the ABS, right? Possibly the brake lines rubbing on something, or the proportioning valve?
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I know you clearances exhaust. But have you checked intercooler and cold side piping to bumper and bumper related parts?
Yup, everything is free to move without getting close to anything.

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That says 'mechanical squeaking' to me. Something rubbing under the dash, maybe? You eliminated the ABS, right? Possibly the brake lines rubbing on something, or the proportioning valve?
Yes, ABS is gone and prop valve is in the rear. I will start looking for loose things under the dash this weekend.

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Could it be a chipmunk and/or gerbil playing a mini snare drum in the hvac vents?
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If you take the drive belt off does the noise happen? Just to 100% eliminate belt.... Cause it damn sounds like a belt lol
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Sounds like the vent blower motor or possible tire out of balance.
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Sounds like the vent blower motor or possible tire out of balance.
Doesn't have hvac any more and it makes the noise at idle
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He already did the belt pull thing.

Water pump, electric or manual? Another wild idea.
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Could it be a chipmunk and/or gerbil playing a mini snare drum in the hvac vents?
Would be cool, but I don't think they would survive in my death trap.

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If you take the drive belt off does the noise happen? Just to 100% eliminate belt.... Cause it damn sounds like a belt lol
Does it without belt on.

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Sounds like the vent blower motor or possible tire out of balance.
No HVAC what so ever is in car. Tire out of balance is possible but does it in park.

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He already did the belt pull thing.

Water pump, electric or manual? Another wild idea.
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