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09-16-2017, 09:10 AM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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Idiots on the internet
James Butler Eric Cyprus, there's no explosion potential from an in tank fuel pump because there is no oxygen, this is actually a potential for a fire. Not saying it will, just saying your example is not equal. People actually get fires from filet necks in cars from static sparks from human to car, it can happen
Rick Shaner Can happen but not likely
Greg Claughton James Butler there is oxygen in your fuel tank because it's vented to atmosphere-otherwise your tank would collapse
James Butler Greg Claughton, no, you're wrong. The gasoline is constantly evaporating and displacing all the air. Also only old gas tanks are vented, the only time you get oxygen in the tank is when you full it, but that is also displaced by the fuel
Greg Claughton James Butler if you think so
James Butler Greg Claughton, you may need to start learning before you call someone out, lol. Gasoline starts to vaporize at around -50°F, so it it's constantly giving off vapors. Those vapors displace the air. New gas tanks are not vented because we don't want raw hydrocarbons in the atmosphere and the tanks will frequently pull negative pressure, so that debunks your theory of a collapsed tank. Lol try again buddy
James Butler If you were correct, which you're not, then the gas tank would explode as soon as you had a low tank of fuel, uncovering the brushes in the pump, LMAO. Try again
Greg Claughton obviously you are an ex NASA engineer - so explain to me where the displaced oxygen goes if in fact the fuel is evaporating and also if the tank is not vented as you say what takes the place of the fuel when you use it up??
Greg Claughton you sir are an idiot
James Butler THERE IS NO OXYGEN, lmao. Low tank=full of gasoline vapor. Fill tank, small amount of oxygen gets in, most vapors displaced by liquid fuel rushing in=no oxygen. Gasoline vapor is heavier than air. Gasoline is essentially (not quite, but close=evaporating) boiling, and since it is heavier than air, as it evaporates it is displacing the air above it. And in your example of the vented tank, the air, that is above the gasoline liquid is being forced up and out of the "vent".
It is hilarious that the ACTUAL IDIOT, is calling me an idiot when he doesn't know WTF he is talking about. This is basic high school level education and is all EASILY found out on the internet. So next time you run your mouth, you may want to have some facts before you open it and prove yourself STUPID. Because ignorance is correctable, but stupidity is not, and you sir, are stupid
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09-16-2017, 12:50 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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Polar bears displace all
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09-16-2017, 03:57 PM
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That's a beaut of a conversation.
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09-16-2017, 09:36 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Can jet fuel melt steel beams?
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09-16-2017, 10:10 PM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Can jet fuel melt steel beams?
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not without oxygen!
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09-17-2017, 03:21 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Who uses brushed motors these days anyway
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09-17-2017, 11:40 PM
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That's all we use in these.
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09-18-2017, 07:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
That's all we use in these.
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That's what I was thinking, most, if not all, fuel pumps are brushed motors. You need a special controller for non-brushed, and would cost the manufacturer more money. The really new vehicles may be using non-brushed since some are PWM.
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09-18-2017, 08:36 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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*comment was made in jest guise*
But, all RC cars should have brushless stuff, great upgrade
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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09-18-2017, 10:04 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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So I can throw this straight in a bucket of gas? Cool.
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09-18-2017, 10:41 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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I have yet to fail a explosive atmosphere test with brushless stuff, so ya, go for it!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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09-18-2017, 10:57 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
I have yet to fail a explosive atmosphere test with brushless stuff, so ya, go for it!
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BRB gotta find clear gas since ethanol will probably **** this up too
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09-18-2017, 11:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
BRB gotta find clear gas since ethanol will probably **** this up too
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I have 110 octane and 100 octane LL I would happily donate to this experiment
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and once i get PHB, what do i ajust it too?
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Seven.
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09-18-2017, 12:09 PM
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Admin.
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i got some 40 year old black and decker stuff that will probably light fumes up from 20 feet
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09-18-2017, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
*comment was made in jest guise*
But, all RC cars should have brushless stuff, great upgrade
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I would agree with the brushless for higher speed stuff but for crawling it's too much of a pain in the ass having to waterproof the motors and it's cost prohibitive having to buy a sensored brushless motor and ESC. I can replace the brushes in my Holmes Hobbies motors for $6-8 and replace the motor entirely for $45-55.
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09-20-2017, 12:02 AM
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Polar Bears FTW!!!
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