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04-10-2012, 09:40 AM
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Turbo Componant Selections
yeayeayea, im shure most people know by now but i jumped on the turbo bandwagon...
but i have a few questions as to what i need/should get in regards to Wastegate, BOV and Intercooler.
Turbo kit will be assembled by my mad scientist father. already have my turbo, just waiting on some help from kohler with the flanges. then the whole hotside will be fabbed and welded in house at my shop.
but how do i go about knowing what to select for my BOV, Wastegate and Intercooler ?
plan on running a regular IC, no baller A2W set up
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04-10-2012, 09:51 AM
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Are you sure that turbo isn't an internal WG?
This is what I run doe...
JGS 40mm wastegate
31x12x3 A2A IC
JGS 50mm BOV
You may want to bump the WG up to a 50mm pending the turbo size, forget what you said it was. Weld the BOV before the intercooler, and I believe there is a ebay cold side that people have decent luck with, but otherwise, it would be easy to weld it up if you buy a couple bends from summit etc.
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04-10-2012, 09:59 AM
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Are you sure that turbo isn't an internal WG?
This is what I run doe...
JGS 40mm wastegate
31x12x3 A2A IC
JGS 50mm BOV
You may want to bump the WG up to a 50mm pending the turbo size, forget what you said it was. Weld the BOV before the intercooler, and I believe there is a ebay cold side that people have decent luck with, but otherwise, it would be easy to weld it up if you buy a couple bends from summit etc.
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cold side will be also be fabbed up most likely. just dont know what side core or what not i need.
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04-10-2012, 10:04 AM
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Core size is posted above foo, do you want V band clamps off manifolds? (You answer yes to that)
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04-10-2012, 10:10 AM
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yes, i want V-bands
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04-10-2012, 10:15 AM
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Last edited by LTb1ow; 04-10-2012 at 10:19 AM.
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04-10-2012, 10:27 AM
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i hate how regular SS flanges and nonsense are so expensive lol
Tubing coming from one of my dads warehouses he used for his electrical company(#CompanySponsered)
i just needa supply the flanges and V-bands and ish.
So rundown...
2- 3 Bolt Manifold flanges(needa find out what size they are)
1- T4 Flange
BOV n wastegate come with there nonsense... so are those 3 the only flanges i really need ? i feel like i need to much more this is for the hotside only... cold side will be worried about later, but i want to get all my flanges n stuff on 1 order.
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04-10-2012, 10:42 AM
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No, you want V bands for off manifolds to main crossover.
Turbo Flange for turbo to bolt to.
Turbo downpipe V band clamp
BOV V band clamp
WG V band clamp
Pending if you are doing a dumped WG or not, another V band or flange for WG to downpipe.
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04-10-2012, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
No, you want V bands for off manifolds to main crossover.
Turbo Flange for turbo to bolt to.
Turbo downpipe V band clamp
BOV V band clamp
WG V band clamp
Pending if you are doing a dumped WG or not, another V band or flange for WG to downpipe.
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why not just regular flanges with the pipes welded right to em ?
Turbo flange is obvi.
Downpipe slipped my mind
BOV, why not weld into pipe ?
WG, same as above.
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04-10-2012, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1ow
why not just regular flanges with the pipes welded right to em ?
Turbo flange is obvi.
Downpipe slipped my mind
BOV, why not weld into pipe ?
WG, same as above.
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Because not haXors POS?
You could run the three bolt flange setup, but IMO, if you have the coin, use V bands, will be simpler and no gaskets to blow out. I just know that every time I helped remove stock Y pipe, those three studs were always a pain in the ass to work with. Granted you could easily swap that out later, so no big deal either way.
I know with my WG/BOV they come with a V band flange on em, so you have to use that style clamp.
Its up to you, if you wanna save some money, run cheaper ebay stuff and weld em straight to pipe. Just be careful, if they go.. you either over boost your engine, or over spin your turbo... neither are good.
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04-10-2012, 11:28 AM
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Because not haXors POS?
You could run the three bolt flange setup, but IMO, if you have the coin, use V bands, will be simpler and no gaskets to blow out. I just know that every time I helped remove stock Y pipe, those three studs were always a pain in the ass to work with. Granted you could easily swap that out later, so no big deal either way.
I know with my WG/BOV they come with a V band flange on em, so you have to use that style clamp.
Its up to you, if you wanna save some money, run cheaper ebay stuff and weld em straight to pipe. Just be careful, if they go.. you either over boost your engine, or over spin your turbo... neither are good.
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didnt know the WG/BOV came like that, i thought it just came with a the piece you weld into an existing pipe.
so what your saying is instead of just having the hotside pipes bolt to the existing 3 bolt flange on the truck manifold, remove the flange from the manifold and make a V-Band connection ? im not sure if thats what you mean, got any pics ?
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04-10-2012, 11:29 AM
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04-10-2012, 11:43 AM
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woah.
ok so now i know what you mean. thanks. prob gunna order all teh flanges tonight.
recomendations on what piping to go with ? some say stainless, some say mild steel ? also, sizes? i know i need 3" 2.5" U-bends for hotside, but what guage/wall ?
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04-10-2012, 11:49 AM
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I am not really to sure what guage, but I would go as thick as you feel comfortable welding, will help retain heat and last longer etc.
I would go SS if you can afford it and weld it, if you go mild steel def plan on having it coated and maybe wrapped.
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04-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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I am not really to sure what guage, but I would go as thick as you feel comfortable welding, will help retain heat and last longer etc.
I would go SS if you can afford it and weld it, if you go mild steel def plan on having it coated and maybe wrapped.
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deff want it coated. do not want shiney pipes going all over the bay, rather have flat black evilness.
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04-10-2012, 12:01 PM
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deff want it coated. do not want shiney pipes going all over the bay, rather have flat black evilness.
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Then it shall be a race between us to see who gets there first.
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04-10-2012, 12:09 PM
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Then it shall be a race between us to see who gets there first.
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so mild steel is the route ?
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04-10-2012, 12:11 PM
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Hot side will def be flat black or as close as I can get it. All top end stuff will be powdercoated matte black, cold side.. will be pink.
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04-10-2012, 02:39 PM
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cold side will prob be sparkle on mine.
Got an intercooler
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04-10-2012, 02:45 PM
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Don't forget tune, meth kit, and boost controller if you wanna pwn n00bz.
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04-10-2012, 02:51 PM
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Don't forget tune, meth kit, and boost controller if you wanna pwn n00bz.
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meth can wait.
boost controller/tune are teh obvii.
Notsureif... using halo bar nitrous kit to spray IC ?
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04-10-2012, 03:02 PM
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Depends if you got any half-empty bottle of NOS laying around.
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04-10-2012, 03:44 PM
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How are you gonna tune the car without meth?
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04-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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thought meth was just an add on ?!
10 gauge 2.5" Stainless/Mild Steel good for the hotside ?
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04-10-2012, 04:10 PM
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thought meth was just an add on ?!
10 gauge 2.5" Stainless/Mild Steel good for the hotside ?
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10 gauge? are you looking to add ballast?
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