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05-10-2012, 11:57 AM
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best way to convert to fuel injection
Got a 86 trans am carbureted i want to go to fuel injection but i dont want to go buy 3000 dollar holley kit so whats your guys opinion
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05-10-2012, 12:13 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Install LS1.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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05-10-2012, 12:20 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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1.) Stock 3rd gen setup
2.) LT/LS swap
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05-10-2012, 12:22 PM
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What's your budget?
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05-10-2012, 12:27 PM
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Cars suspension is 75% done just gotta buy the coil over front end n manuel rack n pinion. And my budget is 5k
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05-10-2012, 12:27 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Engine swap.
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05-10-2012, 12:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Engine swap.
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This. I vote 5.3 or 6.0 truck engine.
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05-10-2012, 12:31 PM
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05-10-2012, 12:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WildBillyT
Engine swap.
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Agreed. Buy a 3rd gen gas tank from a TPI or TBI car, new high pressure fuel pump, and install used LS1 with an aftermarket harness and custom motor mounts. If your car has a 700R4, I'm almost positive the 4L60E is the same size and would bolt right up to your existing crossmember and driveshaft.
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05-10-2012, 12:34 PM
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The fast or holley kits will be cheaper to "bolt on", but you'll get better results with the engine swap.
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05-10-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverDropTop
What's your budget?
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start here, then list what you are trying to achieve, intended usage, etc.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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05-10-2012, 01:08 PM
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I thought you wanted the carb? Haha i got a few tpi setups laying around if you want something decently cheap
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05-10-2012, 01:48 PM
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Buy a parts car. I bought a 87 GTA for 700 bucks. Swapped everything into my 86 T/A in a weekend.
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05-10-2012, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deadtrend1
Buy a parts car. I bought a 87 GTA for 700 bucks. Swapped everything into my 86 T/A in a weekend.
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Jersey Mike could use some pointers.
With all due respect.
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05-10-2012, 03:46 PM
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I have a 383 stroker and im going fuel injection for that it married to a t56 i want to go fuel injection for that motor seeing its 9:1 compression im gonna turbo charge it .... most likely should of included that
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05-10-2012, 03:47 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
start here, then list what you are trying to achieve, intended usage, etc.
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He stated 5k.
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05-10-2012, 04:01 PM
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If you already have a solid 383 and a $5K budget, why wouldn't you want to use a FAST of Holley system?
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05-10-2012, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverDropTop
If you already have a solid 383 and a $5K budget, why wouldn't you want to use a FAST of Holley system?
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I missed that too.
You built a 9:1 383? May I ask, why that compression?
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05-10-2012, 04:15 PM
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I missed this post somehow.
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belowfire Cars suspension is 75% done just gotta buy the coil over front end n manuel rack n pinion. And my budget is 5k
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you are not doing a nicely done LS swap for $5k. Fuel, tuning, harness and exhaust alone swallows that if it is half decent.
so it sounds like a drag car. so why EFI?
if you are really going to play with turbos I think the self-learning systems are off the table.
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The looser the waistband, the deeper the quicksand. Or so I have read.
Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold. I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors.
Hey everybody, it's good to have you on the Baba-too-da-ba-too-ba-ba-buh-doo-ga-ga-bop-a-dop
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05-10-2012, 05:33 PM
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Low comprehensive for turbo charging it n im looking for opinions on what to do cuz i drive this car alot
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05-10-2012, 06:18 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by belowfire
Low comprehensive for turbo charging it n im looking for opinions on what to do cuz i drive this car alot
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Take the turbo idea, and throw it away. No offense, but 5k won't get you a setup you will be happy with.
Either try and sell the current motor, and swap in an LS1/LT1
Or, listen to the third gen people and swap to a stock EFI setup and use the 5k to make sure its all working great, and tuned well.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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05-10-2012, 06:57 PM
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05-11-2012, 02:14 AM
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Yeah, best way to do it is to go with some sort of MPFI system. Stay away from TPI kits, especially for an 383 and turbocharging.
Miniram, Stealth Ram, etc etc would work. I would also listen to Adam and say either add another 5k to your budget or just stick to an aftermarket EFI system to get you ready for the future.
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05-11-2012, 05:38 PM
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Ight im swinging towards the ls motors seeing that there just all around better.
Was talking to my buddy and he says the 5.3 ls motors out of trucks are easy to find for cheap but i want a 450hp motor so anyone know if its easy to get that high with one of these or should i just spend more for an ls1?
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05-11-2012, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Take the turbo idea, and throw it away. No offense, but 5k won't get you a setup you will be happy with.
Either try and sell the current motor, and swap in an LS1/LT1
Or, listen to the third gen people and swap to a stock EFI setup and use the 5k to make sure its all working great, and tuned well.
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kohlers right, i had money budgeted out for my turbo build and its not even close lol
if your going to go turbo, price out how much its gunna cost you for all the parts and labor, and them make shure you got about a 3k cushion on top of that.
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