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04-08-2009, 03:25 PM
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Official State Registration Thread
Looking to go Historic or Collectors? Here's where you will get some info.
DMV definitions are:
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Originally Posted by Collector Vehicle
Effective September 1, 2007
To be classified as a "collector vehicle" you need to apply when you register and make sure that the vehicle is:
A limited production vehicle or a vehicle made in limited quantities
Less than 25 years old
Not registered as a "historic vehicle" or a "street rod"
Not driven more than 3,000 miles per year
Insured as a limited use "collector vehicle"
To be classified as a collector vehicle, your vehicle cannot be registered as a "historic vehicle" or a "street rod."
Vehicles applying for collector vehicle status must be approved by MVC. Follow these steps to apply:
Complete the collector vehicle application
Submit a letter from the vehicle manufacturer, recognized car club or a collector organization attesting to the vehicle’s limited production status. Must be printed on official letterhead
Show proof of limited-use insurance
Include photographs of front, driver side, passenger side and rear of the vehicle
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Originally Posted by Historic Vehicle
You can purchase historic plates for $44. To be considered a historic vehicle, the vehicle has to be at least 25 years old and only used for exhibition and educational purposes by the owner.
You must include two color photographs of the vehicle with your application for historic vehicle registration.
One of front view
One of the side view (right or left)
Also bring a copy of your vehicle's New Jersey title. You can personalize them for a $94 fee.
Owners of modified antique automobiles manufactured before 1949 that are registered in a New Jersey street rod club or an affiliate of the National Street Rod Association Inc. may apply for a Street Rod plate for $15.
Call MVC at (609) 292-6500 or toll free in New Jersey (888) 486-3339 to request an application.
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Facts about Registration and Insurance
1.) If you need to get collector's insurance from a place like Hagerty or Grundy, please be aware that you need to be at least 25 years old with a clean driving record to be approved. <--- This has been known to vary. Check with the companies before you purchase/go to register your car.
2.) If you decide to get collector's insurance from a place like Hagerty or Grundy, please be aware that they will require the car to be stored in a locked garage
3.) If you decide to get collector's insurance from a place like Hagerty or Grundy, please be aware that they will require you to have a seperate daily driver and proof of it's insurance
4.) You can only get QQ plates by going to the office near the Trenton DMV on M-F, or through the mail. Doing this by mail can take 1-2 months.
5.) Certain people who have existing collector's registration did not have to meet the "collector status" clause, depending on when they got their sticker. If you see the triangular inspection sticker on a car like yours, do not assume you can also get one unless you know for a FACT that your car meets the collector criteria.
6.) If you are one of the lucky people to have an existing collector's reg on a car that does not meet the criteria, be sure to never let it lapse. You may have to reapply for collector's status and you may be denied under the new rules.
If you have a collector's or historic reg and have info to share, please let me know and I'll update this sticky.
Last edited by WildBillyT; 04-08-2009 at 03:40 PM.
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04-09-2009, 09:31 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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"Submit a letter from the vehicle manufacturer, recognized car club or a collector organization attesting to the vehicle’s limited production status. "
Getting ready to do this for mine this year. Any ideas on how to fullfill this request? Most Camaro's and Firebird's were not concidered "limited production". Will GM give anyone a letter for this purpose?
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04-11-2009, 02:35 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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"recognized car club"
I will have to find out what that means.
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04-11-2009, 04:59 PM
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Co-Founder / Site Admin
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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
"recognized car club"
I will have to find out what that means.
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I have been trying for ages and can't get a straight answer out of anyone.
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04-20-2009, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 88Z-Man
"Submit a letter from the vehicle manufacturer, recognized car club or a collector organization attesting to the vehicle’s limited production status. "
Getting ready to do this for mine this year. Any ideas on how to fullfill this request? Most Camaro's and Firebird's were not concidered "limited production". Will GM give anyone a letter for this purpose?
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thats the problem
i had my car under collector status for the past 6 years, now i let it lapse because i didnt want to drive the car in January with the salt on the road. Now im told have to reapply, which is really going to suck unless i can get my status renewed by the state somehow. I have phone calls to make.
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08-18-2009, 10:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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If you contact gm...you can get a build sheet that will tell how many of your car were made.....for classic or collector status...i believe it has to be less than 5,000 produced....my ride was denied..not positive on the number...but it is very low
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08-19-2009, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CAUGHT-YA-LOOKIN
If you contact gm...you can get a build sheet that will tell how many of your car were made.....for classic or collector status...i believe it has to be less than 5,000 produced....my ride was denied..not positive on the number...but it is very low
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Collector only...for the classic (QQ) plates, any car 25+ years old qualifies.
- Justin
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11-30-2009, 04:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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I think it should be mentioned that If ANYONE in your household has a bad driving record you cannot get collector car insurance in NJ. I had this issue this summer. I was not able to get collector insurance because my sister has a bad driving record and is in the same household. Apparently in NJ it is some sort of an umbrella policy and they would not insure me (who has a perfect driving record knock on wood) because of my sister..
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11-30-2009, 04:31 PM
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what companies did you try?
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12-01-2009, 11:00 AM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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You can still get coverage from some companies but they will want something in writing stating that you will be the only operating the vehicle. My brother had a ticket and one company denied me coverage but another company pointed it out and I told them he would not be driving the car ever so they gave me a policy and I faxed over a signed statement. Try contacting www.mkinsuranceagency.com to see what they say. That's who I had on my 70 SS396 Camaro.
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12-01-2009, 03:31 PM
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Not in NJ, I already tried getting something in writing, wouldn't work. I tried at least a dozen companies including the one above, It just doesn't work. I tried:
Hagerty, classiccar, eastcoast classics, american classics, north american classics, grundy, usinsurance, and a bunch more. They all told me the same thing, because somebody in the household has a bad driving record I can't get it. If I lived in PA or another state than I could have a notarized letter sent, but not in NJ
edit: also my sister has more than just 1 ticket lol
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12-01-2009, 03:34 PM
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move/kick her out
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12-01-2009, 03:37 PM
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HAHA thats what my dad and I wanted to do. My dad and I were trying to figure out how to get around it since now I am paying 4X as much for insurance to have no covererage except liability... it really sucks
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12-01-2009, 07:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy78TA
Not in NJ, I already tried getting something in writing, wouldn't work. I tried at least a dozen companies including the one above, It just doesn't work.
edit: also my sister has more than just 1 ticket lol
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Jeff is in NJ, so it is possible. The second part of your statement might be the real reaason.
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Originally Posted by andy78TA
HAHA thats what my dad and I wanted to do. My dad and I were trying to figure out how to get around it since now I am paying 4X as much for insurance to have no covererage except liability... it really sucks
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Charge your sister for the difference in insurance costs....
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12-01-2009, 09:02 PM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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How old are you? Most collector insurance companies won't deal with people under 25 to begin with. I had insurance through MK for 3 years on my SS396. They did ask me about my brother's ticket but I told them he would never be driving the car so they gave me coverage.
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12-01-2009, 09:53 PM
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I am 22 but a few places allow you at 21 with a clean record. The car was originally sold to my dad though because I thought it was 25 also so we had it in his name to get the insurance and they said the issue was my sister. Once we exhausted all efforts we put it in my name.
Now I want to try this again though. I called so many companies and they all said the same thing, If anyone in the household has issues you can't get it. I guess they will allow someone in the household to have a ticket, as long as its not something serious... unfortunately that still knocks me out... stupid sister
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12-02-2009, 09:11 AM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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They are probably telling you it's your sisters record but it's really a combination of your age and someone in the household having tickets. It's up to the insurance company, but most won't give collectors insurance for someone under 25 so you have 2 things going against you right now.
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12-02-2009, 09:59 AM
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Grundy is real good for the collector insurance.....but as with the others
must be a licenced driver of 10 or more years.....they need pictures ..of the front..both sides..and rear of the car...also a picture of a garage that you keep it in...it's around $60 a year for $8000 in coverage....i contacted motor vehicle and can not get an answer on the recognized car club....other that a car club recomondation for your car...on a car clubs letterhead....with a contact person they can call if needed....also the same for gm...must be on a gm letterhead....
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12-02-2009, 01:24 PM
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hmm i got a question now...
My SS is registered as a collector vehicle, and i got the triangle inspection sticker in 4/07. I renewed my registration in 08, and my mom did it for me this year, so it has never lapsed. Too be honest i cant remember if the renewal paperwork said collector on it, and i never pay attention the the cost anyway. Would it be automatic, or do i need to apply for collector every time i renew? Im hoping not. The second part of my question is that my inspection expired in 4/09, but i was deployed at the time. And in NJ for deployed military, they extend all expiration dates until im off orders/active duty for 2 weeks. So technically for me, it never actually expired. If i bring my orders and military ID to the inspection to renew it, they shouldnt give me much of a hassle for being late right?
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12-02-2009, 02:11 PM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
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They might not hassle you for being late but they might question the collector or limited use registration. If that is still current you might be ok. Aren't you supposed to go to dmv every year so they can record the odometer reading to verify you aren't putting more than 3000 miles a year on it? If you never went and had that updated they might hassle you and I'm guessing they will. Keep your fingers crossed and take a bunch of paperwork and it may overwhelm them.
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12-02-2009, 02:21 PM
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they do the mileage check every 2 years at the inspection, 6000 allowed.
at least thats what i got from the guy who did it and my friends who've had it.
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12-02-2009, 03:07 PM
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I was accepted myself to many of the insurance companies being 21, it was only after that they asked about everyone else in the household so I don't think it was my age for some of them. For the companies that had a 25 minimun that was the first thing they told me
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01-02-2010, 02:29 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by andy78TA
I was accepted myself to many of the insurance companies being 21, it was only after that they asked about everyone else in the household so I don't think it was my age for some of them. For the companies that had a 25 minimun that was the first thing they told me
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Andy,
Do you know which accepted you at 21? And what your rates looked like? I'll edit the original post.
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02-01-2010, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Official State Registration Thread
Just relocated from Long Island to Hillsborough (I guess that's "Central"). Anywho - I need to change reggies, insurance and licenses for me and the wife, plus all the cars. I have an 88 GTA and was wondering if there is any advantage to registering it as a "collector car" in NJ. I have collector insurance and have put a total of 5k miles on it in the 7 years I've owned it. I removed A.I.R, but it passes smog in NY when I get it inspected there (but would fail visual if anybody bothered to check - which they never do). The DMV site states that I have to get some sort of written proof that the car is limited edition or whatever. Any advantage cost or convenience wise to jumping through these hoops - or should I just do it as I would with my other non-collectibles.Thanks
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02-01-2010, 04:04 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by gtaproject
Just relocated from Long Island to Hillsborough (I guess that's "Central"). Anywho - I need to change reggies, insurance and licenses for me and the wife, plus all the cars. I have an 88 GTA and was wondering if there is any advantage to registering it as a "collector car" in NJ. I have collector insurance and have put a total of 5k miles on it in the 7 years I've owned it. I removed A.I.R, but it passes smog in NY when I get it inspected there (but would fail visual if anybody bothered to check - which they never do). The DMV site states that I have to get some sort of written proof that the car is limited edition or whatever. Any advantage cost or convenience wise to jumping through these hoops - or should I just do it as I would with my other non-collectibles.Thanks
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You will not have to go through any inspection- just an odometer check.
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