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09-15-2017, 09:25 AM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Winch decisions
So for those of you that know, I got a trailer. I want to toss a winch on it and while most folks know I'm not scared to blow apart my wallet, I'm weighing out the pros/cons for spending significantly more money for likely limited pay off. I'm going to assume a 4K or better winch should do whatever I need to as long as the car is rolling. I hope to never have to use it but you know.....
Here are the options I found.
Badlands Harbor Freight Special
https://www.harborfreight.com/9000-l...ake-61346.html
Pros: Good reviews, way more capacity than I should need, can get it down the street from me and throw it back at them easily if it stops working.
Cons: No clue how long it will work and last.
SmittyBilt
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JXS3BXI...=250FVPI3UX379
Basically same as the Badlands except I get Amazon the opportunity to take more of my money.
Warn VR-8
https://www.amazon.com/WARN-96810-VR...winch%2B8&th=1
Pros: Better brand (assume) so maybe it will work better and last longer?
Cons: Price
I will also need to get a battery, box, cover, etc etc to finish this all up.
Thoughts?
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09-15-2017, 09:53 AM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
Join Date: May 2006
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Personally, I would rather pay more for something that is most likely going to last a long time, compared to something that is likely to fail, especially when you need it. I want to get a Warn, but I will need at least a 12k pound, so I haven't gotten it yet. I do buy some stuff from Hazard Fraught, but it's mostly stuff that I won't depend on when I am having my worst day.
Also, you can probably do better on price than Amazon, I would shop around a LOT before you go there, especially since you're going to have to pay sales tax on it too
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten"
Last edited by PolarBear; 09-15-2017 at 09:57 AM.
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09-15-2017, 09:56 AM
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Power Member
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Location: Milford NJ
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I have a smitty built winch on my jeep truck. For the money they are very good, ive never had a problem. Same one you have linked too. Its a little big for a trailer, but would work fine.
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09-15-2017, 10:39 AM
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Power Member / trans break does not equal transbrake
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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
I have a smitty built winch on my jeep truck. For the money they are very good, ive never had a problem. .
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Smittybuilt has a solid product, only think I've noticed is that they do not like to work right when they get wet.
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09-15-2017, 12:18 PM
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11 sec club
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Go OL school and get a manual hand crank like they use for boats.
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09-15-2017, 01:09 PM
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13 Second Club / Moderator
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I know it's not the same, but I have a Warn on my ATV that has served me well for about 10 years. Truth be told, I don't use it much, though.
The Warn sure is pretty, although I'd probably go with the Smittybuilt because the price is right and it has a warranty.
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09-15-2017, 01:21 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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09-15-2017, 01:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jackson, NJ
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The open trailer I used to pick up my current camaro has the cheap harbor freight on it and my buddy's enclosed trailer has the same winch as well.
Both work flawlessly and are easily 5 years old. The one on the open trailer had the plastic housing smashed when I hauled my old camaro to the scrap yard. It also has sat outside its entire life. If that doesn't say something about the quality then IDK what else to say
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Seven.
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09-15-2017, 03:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Millstone
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My brother has warn on all his offroaders
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09-15-2017, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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I have always had Superwinch on or in my trailers with no issues. My current S4000 has been on my trailer outside in the weather for 10 plus years. I hook it up via Warn winch plugs to a battery that I carry with me. I did mount it on/with a trailer hitch mount so I could remove it and use on another trailer. That being said I know many people using the Ching Chong brands in their enclosed trailers with winch rope and having zero problems.
Side note: I have never used winch rope only cable. Obviously the cable sucks for stray wires but I have never known if winch rope holds up being left in the elements.
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09-16-2017, 06:06 AM
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11 second club / Moderator
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I have a 5500 lb badland in my hauler, and its been good. I thought i would hardly use it, but being a enclosed trailer, its easier for me to lay down hook up my tie downs outside, and then winch it in so its straight in the center.
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09-16-2017, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arm pit of the world... NJ
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The Badland is the same one I lent you when you borrowed my trailer. I've had it for 5+ years and it's still like new. My recommendation is to make a quick disconnect setup like I did. That way you pull a pin, remove the winch and store it in the garage. I would also recommend that you purchase this with it.
https://www.harborfreight.com/Wirele...rol-69229.html
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09-17-2017, 10:20 AM
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American Road Warrior
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Wastelands of NJ
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We use a few Warns at work. One is always doing boneyard duty and really gets abused. They all seem to work well, even with monkeys like me using them. Lol
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09-17-2017, 01:03 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Thanks for the input. Decision time soon!
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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09-20-2017, 03:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Jackson, NJ
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Just a FYI-
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1983 camaro- Scrap
1988 camaro- Also scrap
'05 Silverado- You guessed it, scrap
1988 TRX 250R- Ported w/ high compression on 110 octane- Out 60' your LT1
Jersey Shore Street Car Takeover (JSSCT) Founder
Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1ow
and once i get PHB, what do i ajust it too?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jersey Mike
Seven.
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Last edited by wretched73; 09-20-2017 at 03:47 PM.
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09-20-2017, 03:53 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Thanks. Harbor Freight sends me a lot of monthly love in the mail.
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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11-04-2017, 03:32 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
Last edited by Blackbirdws6; 11-04-2017 at 03:34 PM.
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11-04-2017, 04:58 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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Very spiffy sir!
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11-04-2017, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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You guys with your fancy al-u-minium trailers!
Nice setup, bet it beats trying to push 'em up there!
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11-04-2017, 08:21 PM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Originally Posted by The_Bishop
You guys with your fancy al-u-minium trailers!
Nice setup, bet it beats trying to push 'em up there!
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Sew fuuhncy. Yes, no one wants to push shamu anywhere.
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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11-05-2017, 06:17 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Does the battery get charged via the trailer hookup, or is it completely stand-alone?
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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11-05-2017, 06:25 AM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Does the battery get charged via the trailer hookup, or is it completely stand-alone?
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If not its easy to do. I removed the little tongue battery and my big battery is tied into the truck and break away.switch.
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11-05-2017, 06:42 AM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Bishop
Does the battery get charged via the trailer hookup, or is it completely stand-alone?
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Stsndalone. I bought a solar battery tender to keep things topped off. Jump box will go in the truck just in csse.
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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11-05-2017, 07:00 AM
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11 sec club
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Nice setup bud, Looks like you are now ready for "alltheboost"
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99 Z28 Trick Flow 215s milled to 61cc 228/232 Cam Fast 102 built 4l65e trans 4000 converter 12 bolt 410s Electric WP deleted PS/AC Dyno & Track tuned
2015 ATS Coupe. AWD 2.0 Turbo
2012 2500hd Silverado with LTZ 20s on 35x12.5x20
86 Buick GN Lesabre 1 of 117 (4-Sale)
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11-05-2017, 07:32 AM
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Lord of the rings / 10 Second Club / Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDSheds_SS
Nice setup bud, Looks like you are now ready for "alltheboost"
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Thanks man. No one wants to try and push my car on the trailer. Still working out the bracket for the tow hook install on the bird.
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97 T/A Ram Air Convt
Forever dyno queen / 777rwhp 662 rwtq @ 17lbs / 10.2 @ 140
'24 Corvette Z06
17 Sierra 2500HD Dmax
81 Turbo TA
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