Serious Springs Question - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

enRo · 05-03-2006, 03:12 PM

Installed, I have the KYB AGX shocks with the BMR 1" Lowering Springs. This may sound odd but the rear of the car is dropped about 2.5 inches from the stock ride height (only suppose to be 1"), in which case the 315's on the TT2's arent gonna fit under there even if i did roll the fender lips. Is there anyway I can lift the rear up about 1.5 inches without changing out the new springs? FWIW this is on a 1/8 tank gas and stock weight

HardcoreZ28 · 05-03-2006, 04:02 PM

Spring rubbers would be a cheapo solution, but I would suggest contacting the vendor for the springs and confirming that you have the correct part number for the rear. Rear springs are an easy swap if they are incorrect.

johnjzjz · 05-03-2006, 04:47 PM

they make a donut type of thing but you will have to take it all apart anyway so its like a band aid change out for the correct ride height springs less of a problem down the road jz

Tru2Chevy · 05-03-2006, 06:00 PM

Another vote to contact BMR and ask what's up.

- Justin

enRo · 05-03-2006, 06:53 PM

Ok I sent an email and got an immediate response:

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Originally Posted by I

Hello. I recently purchased the BMR 1" Lowering Springs for my 2001 Camaro Z/28 from you guys. I had it professionally installed by my reputable local shop with new KYB AGX shocks about 1 month ago. This may sound odd or not, but the front of the car was dropped exactly 1" (which is perfect), but the rear was dropped about 2.75" . There is nothing weighing the rear of the car down (its at stock weight with 1/8 tank of gas) . I cant drive the car around because the rear tires will scrape the fender lips really bad, forcing me to park it. My mechanic said the shocks are perfect and nothign is wrong with them, but he didnt say anything about the springs. Is this normal? My car sits higher in the front than it does in the back. Thanks in advance.

-Noah

Then they replied:

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Originally Posted by BMR

Hi Noah,
That definitely doesn't sound right. Did he reinstall the spring insulator? some people leave them out which will lower the car an addition 1.0".

And I responded:

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Originally Posted by I

I would guess so, I will take a trip to the installer first thing tomorrow. The front and back were at around a 0.75 - 1" drop when they first installed the springs (it actually looked like a stock ride height to the naked eye), but last week (about a month after the installation), the car was sitting alot lower in the rear. The front and rear adjustable shocks were set at the #4 setting (out of 8 ) so its not like the ride was too firm. Thanks in advance.

So, what do you think I should do? Maybe get a more "stock" ride height for the rear and keep the fronts in? Or should I just swap out the fronts + rears for something else? They couldnt save my front springs cuz they were in really bad shape, resulting in the shock mounts being corroded to death in which they had to cut the shock/spring apart .

qwikz28 · 05-03-2006, 09:42 PM

noah BMR springs should fit 315s without a problem at all. i will bet kasey's life that he forgot to reinstall the isolator. do your rear springs squeak?

edit: i just noticed about your shocks. please ditch the kyb jellies and get some better shocks. that may be your problem as welllll

Tru2Chevy · 05-04-2006, 04:50 AM

Eh, KYB AGXs aren't too bad Jake, they are better than the stock deCarbons. I would check to see if the isolator is in you should be able to do this in your driveway with a flashlight....

- Justin

BMF · 05-04-2006, 09:22 AM

Shocks have nothing to do with ride height *unless* they are Binding, or you are using air shocks (bad idea!)

qwikz28 · 05-04-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Eh, KYB AGXs aren't too bad Jake, they are better than the stock deCarbons. I would check to see if the isolator is in you should be able to do this in your driveway with a flashlight....

- Justin

who would spend money to get something thats just better then the stockers? if your gonna spend money like that go big or go home. people that like them havent tried other shocks. besides, revalved bilsteins arent too much more money.

ever hear that term ignorance is bliss?

Tru2Chevy · 05-04-2006, 01:02 PM

Yes Jake, I know there are better shocks out there, I was just pointing out the fact that they aren't *bad* shocks.

I am well aware of what good shocks are, I have bilsteins on my '87

- Justin

qwikz28 · 05-04-2006, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Yes Jake, I know there are better shocks out there, I was just pointing out the fact that they aren't *bad* shocks.

I am well aware of what good shocks are, I have bilsteins on my '87

- Justin

i wasnt doubting your knowledge justin... just making a comparison. but i think you get what i was trying to say.

Savage_Messiah · 05-04-2006, 05:06 PM

qwikz28 · 05-04-2006, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

shutup kasey, and can you please add another paragraph to your sig? i dont think its long enough

[/hijack]

enRo · 05-04-2006, 05:15 PM

K. Well car is back, and I checked the springs and NO insulators were found (unless im looking in the wrong spot which is doubtful) . As for the shocks, I dont have the money to pull outta my ass to change out shocks back and forth to find the perfect ride... the shocks do their job and thats all i care about. But what I care about is the fact the 17x11 TT2s do not fit on the rear of the car because the fender lip is in the way. Even if i did roll the lip back, its still got about a half inch until I see the littlest bit of clearance. So what should I do? Im not the expert in the Springs field, so I dunno how/what it takes to get insulators in there, if it requires removal of the spring or what... so any help will be appreciated.

qwikz28 · 05-04-2006, 05:26 PM

you need those isolators man. get a set and throw them in there and call it a day

enRo · 05-04-2006, 06:27 PM

Thanks for the help. Im just so psyched and impatient to see the outcome of the look of the car with the stuff I had done. All I really gotta do now after the insulators is fit the TT2's and throw on the hockey stripes and the exterior is... D O N E !

Tru2Chevy · 05-04-2006, 07:42 PM

Yea, you may want to order a set of 1" lift isolators from Summit or Jegs, they are pretty cheap. Just pull the springs out with the back of the car jacked up and the rear fully extended, stick the isolators on top of them, and shove them back in. The lower the car and make sure they seat correctly.

- Justin

qwikz28 · 05-04-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

Yea, you may want to order a set of 1" lift isolators from Summit or Jegs, they are pretty cheap. Just pull the springs out with the back of the car jacked up and the rear fully extended, stick the isolators on top of them, and shove them back in. The lower the car and make sure they seat correctly.

- Justin

is it that simple to take them off as well? [/hijack]

Tru2Chevy · 05-04-2006, 07:48 PM

Yes, rear springs in 3rd and 4th gens can be swapped in under a half an hour, start to finish.

- Justin

enRo · 05-06-2006, 10:13 AM

Problem fixed. Thanks for the help guys

qwikz28 · 05-06-2006, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyKane

Problem fixed. Thanks for the help guys

was it the isolator and when you gonna post pics of the new wheels?

Tsar · 05-06-2006, 12:40 PM

on the pics, post 'em chief.

enRo · 05-06-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by qwikz28

was it the isolator and when you gonna post pics of the new wheels?

When I fit them

. I gotta hammer in the inner fender and trim the bumpstops for the rears. I cant do that until 10 cubic yards of black cedar mulch is off my driveway so i can get into my garage. Thats what sucks about not having a paved driveway

Edit - Yes it was the isolator. It was a 2 hour job for me and a friend, but its in there

qwikz28 · 05-06-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyKane

When I fit them

. I gotta hammer in the inner fender and trim the bumpstops for the rears. I cant do that until 10 cubic yards of black cedar mulch is off my driveway so i can get into my garage. Thats what sucks about not having a paved driveway

Edit - Yes it was the isolator. It was a 2 hour job for me and a friend, but its in there

congrads

Tsar · 05-06-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDaddyKane

When I fit them

. I gotta hammer in the inner fender and trim the bumpstops for the rears. I cant do that until 10 cubic yards of black cedar mulch is off my driveway so i can get into my garage. Thats what sucks about not having a paved driveway

Edit - Yes it was the isolator. It was a 2 hour job for me and a friend, but its in there

wanna use my driveway?