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07-22-2009, 07:09 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Torque arm help(Moser 9in)
My car and torque arms are pissing me the **** off. Put a 9in in my car about 2 weeks ago. I messed around with my umi non adj. torque for over 4 hrs and came to the conclusion that it just wouldn't fit. Meanwhile, the stock one slips right on and is installed in a matter of 10 minutes. Then last week, I traded away my UMI + a good amount of cash. Tonight I go and try to install the BMR adj. 1 I bought, and it doesn't fit! I'll go out and take a picture in a few. The BMR one was adj. to match the stock one side by side. I was able to hammer it on to the 9in housing(shouldn't have to do), and the holes are about an 1/8in off. WTf, am I doing wrong? At this point I've pissed away so much money on torque arms only to find that stock is the only one that has worked so far.
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07-22-2009, 07:36 PM
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Power Member
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I have a mosere 9" and a umi adjustable arm, no issues at all.
your car hates you
Last edited by //<86TA>\\; 07-22-2009 at 07:36 PM.
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07-22-2009, 07:55 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
I have a mosere 9" and a umi adjustable arm, no issues at all.
your car hates you
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is it trans or tunnel mounted? The adj. one I have is a BMR. I have the technique down it takes to get the pinion at the right angle so that it'll let the torque arm slide on and off, it just seemed like the mounting flange of the torque arm will not allow the torque arm to move far enough to the center for the bolts to line up.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-22-2009, 08:38 PM
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Power Member
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i have the crossmember mounted arm, adjustable.
I have heard of the arms not fitting and needing grinding of the housing or arm to make it work, It could be a issue with the torque arm mount on the axle as well, the stock arm may fit because its thinner and more flexible.
I wouldnt even bother with the non adjustable arm, its worthless on anything but a stock vehicle at stock height.
as for the bolt holes in the BMR arm, are there 2 sets of holes or just one? I know my UMI arm has 2 sets of holes, you couldnt use one set of the 9" rear unless you cut the webbing of the 3rd member a lot. I just had to grind a tiny little bit in one spot fopr the other set
Last edited by //<86TA>\\; 07-22-2009 at 08:40 PM.
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07-22-2009, 10:06 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by //<86TA>\\
i have the crossmember mounted arm, adjustable.
I have heard of the arms not fitting and needing grinding of the housing or arm to make it work, It could be a issue with the torque arm mount on the axle as well, the stock arm may fit because its thinner and more flexible.
I wouldnt even bother with the non adjustable arm, its worthless on anything but a stock vehicle at stock height.
as for the bolt holes in the BMR arm, are there 2 sets of holes or just one? I know my UMI arm has 2 sets of holes, you couldnt use one set of the 9" rear unless you cut the webbing of the 3rd member a lot. I just had to grind a tiny little bit in one spot fopr the other set
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yea, I'm gonna have to grind a little bit of the torque arm or 3rd member. Just don't have the time to mess around with it tonight. Maybe tomorrow I'll see what I can do.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-22-2009, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
yea, I'm gonna have to grind a little bit of the torque arm or 3rd member. Just don't have the time to mess around with it tonight. Maybe tomorrow I'll see what I can do.
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if you need a electric grinder or air die grinder i can lend you one if need be. just give me a shout. i could drop it off on my way to work or back from work.
got a plasma cutter too, but i think you might go overboard with that....ha.ha
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07-22-2009, 10:54 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Originally Posted by S.J.SLEEPER
if you need a electric grinder or air die grinder i can lend you one if need be. just give me a shout. i could drop it off on my way to work or back from work.
got a plasma cutter too, but i think you might go overboard with that....ha.ha
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thanks. I'll let you know how I make out. Got a pretty busy schedule for the next couple of days, so I may not get to it until next week.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-22-2009, 10:56 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: barnegat nj
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no problem, anytime you need it. i got just about anything you could possibly need, mig welder, torches,plasma, etc...
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07-23-2009, 08:30 AM
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10 Second Club
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the nice thing about the spohn setup is it has 2 sets of holes for that reason. maybe consider buying a spohn? Ive heard fitment issues with the other manufacturers with aftermarket rears.
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07-23-2009, 11:20 AM
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12 Second Club
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I got a spohn adj. with a 12bolt moser. seems to fit without any problems.
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07-23-2009, 11:24 AM
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i have a spohn adj crossmember mount if you just want to check it out and see if it fits or something? not gunna sell it though
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07-23-2009, 02:19 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
i have a spohn adj crossmember mount if you just want to check it out and see if it fits or something? not gunna sell it though ![Wink](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
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maybe. I wouldn't buy it anyway....TSP catted y=crossmember useless.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-23-2009, 04:59 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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oh yeah i remember you saying that now. well if you just want to see if the torque arm slides on or not, let me know.
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07-23-2009, 06:48 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
maybe. I wouldn't buy it anyway....TSP catted y=crossmember useless.
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Cats ftl.
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07-23-2009, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ShowNoPromise
Cats ftl.
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nah TSP ftl. They just decided to start putting smaller diameter cats in the y pipes...only took them until now to figure that out.
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Vinnie -
00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-23-2009, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Clayton
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Torque arm help(Moser 9in)
I just finished intalling a moser 9" and a Spohn adj. torque arm ,crossmember mount. The Spohn mount has 2 sets of holes ( 1 set for the 9" ) I mounted the TQ arm to the rear,than to crossmember, than moved the crossmember into place and bolted it up. It took a little effort but went into place. Hope this helps.
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07-23-2009, 08:17 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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![Drool](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/drool.gif) nice setup!
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07-24-2009, 09:41 PM
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i just read some horror stories about the tunnle mounted t/a ripping the brackets right off the floor pans.... because that tunnle brace is only held on with those little bolt plates that are spot welded to the floor.... makes sense that hard launch might tear that out... i might go with the trans crossmember set up..... is that what your doin vin? and then ill just get a safety loop separate...
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07-24-2009, 10:22 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transmaro93
i just read some horror stories about the tunnle mounted t/a ripping the brackets right off the floor pans.... because that tunnle brace is only held on with those little bolt plates that are spot welded to the floor.... makes sense that hard launch might tear that out... i might go with the trans crossmember set up..... is that what your doin vin? and then ill just get a safety loop separate...
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nah...I'm going trans mounted all the way...as in stock location. Gonna try and snap the tailshaft off the trans on a launch ![Nod](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/nod.gif) I may end up selling my exhaust so I can actually run something that's safe.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-24-2009, 10:24 PM
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yea from what im told... x-pipes give alot of extra power though.... but some power loss is better than breaking stuff....
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07-24-2009, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by transmaro93
yea from what im told... x-pipes give alot of extra power though.... but some power loss is better than breaking stuff....
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I've got way too much money into the y-pipe setup to justify selling it anyway. Between the catted y, custom welding, e-cutout, etc. Adding it all up is close to $1k and that's excluding the muffler.
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00 SS A4- LQ9/LS3/Stalled/3.42s 1.48/11.10/121 mph<-6spd swap in progress.
13 Silverado Z71- Sold 11/16
99 Z28 M6- -H/C/9in - sold 1/13
99 Silverado Z71- The DD - Sold 7/13
03 CBR 600RR - Sold 8/13
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07-24-2009, 11:14 PM
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If you have three point sub frame connectors then a tunnel mount would not have much to worry about.
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07-25-2009, 10:18 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN
I've got way too much money into the y-pipe setup to justify selling it anyway. Between the catted y, custom welding, e-cutout, etc. Adding it all up is close to $1k and that's excluding the muffler.
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This is fail.
Three point SFC are ftw. Do it Vinny.
And again, cats are ftl.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
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07-25-2009, 10:22 AM
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really? is that what the trooper said? cats ftl?
i'm a little pissed about the chassis mounted torque arm bs. maybe the braces can be fully welded? eh brandon? i gots a welder! and throw in the sfcs? ehhhh brandon?
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07-25-2009, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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you have a welder...? what kind brand and type... and whats it capable of... didnt think about 3pt connectors... yea with those the tunnle mount would be fine.... i only have 2 point connectors though...
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