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01-15-2015, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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boosted 02 ss
So I would like to make a thread for the build up im doing on my 02 ss. This car has been my dream car since my first 3.8 back when I was 17 haha.
So the car is a red 02 ss m6
Current mods :
Engine-
Torque v3 111 lsa
799 heads
Hd timing gear
Ported ls6 oil pump
Ls6 intake
Slp lid
Lpp headers
Ory
Cut out
Magnaflow cat
msd 2-step
walboro 255 lph fuel pump
Trans-
Stock t-56
Ls6 clutch
Auto bleeder
Tick mc
Suspensions-
Umi adj torque arm
Umi weld in sfc’s
Founders double adj lca’s
Founders double adj phb
Interior doo dads-
TA leather seats (ermahgawd best mod ever)
Ws6 store short stick
I’ve already ordered the 9in housing from quick performance which just got here today. I haven’t decided on gearing yet, so the center section will come
Future plans
Boost:
Huron speed V2 ac kit (on order)
Pa racing turbo K-member
comp 3bb 7879 oilless turbo
4in. FMIC intercooler
Xspower 44 mm waste gate
Xspower 50 mm bov
Seimans Deka 80# injectores
A wideband (not sure which yet)
turbo blankey
abs/tcs/cc delete kit
line lock
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01-15-2015, 04:40 PM
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If anyone has any suggestions im all ears, this will be my first turbo build so i wanna make sure i dont leave anything out
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2016 Dodge Durango [Kat]
2007 Honda CRF-80 [Little Toni]
2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale R [Luci]
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01-15-2015, 07:21 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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The cam may not be right for a forced induction setup, too much overlap.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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01-15-2015, 09:26 PM
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thanks, i know its not ideal but its in there for now and my tuner said he would be able to work around it for the time being, in the mean time ill have to see what my funding looks like come time for all the work, if it allows for a new cam, than thats the direction ill be headed in
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2002 Camaro SS H/C/I 9" 413/398 [Lola]
2016 Dodge Durango [Kat]
2007 Honda CRF-80 [Little Toni]
2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale R [Luci]
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01-15-2015, 10:25 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Either turbo will blow the motor, but I would do a 7875 or a 7675, 80# sticks, and 3.42-3.54 range in the rear.
Any meth?
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01-16-2015, 09:29 AM
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Oh I forgot to add the 4 inch intercooler, wasn't planning on meth, what makes you think it'll blow the motor? And I think my decision has changed on turbos, I'm thinkin a comp triple ball bearing 7879, with the oil less conversion
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2002 Camaro SS H/C/I 9" 413/398 [Lola]
2016 Dodge Durango [Kat]
2007 Honda CRF-80 [Little Toni]
2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale R [Luci]
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01-16-2015, 09:58 AM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Its a stock bottom end LS1 no?
Add boost and its only a matter of time IMO.
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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01-16-2015, 03:26 PM
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it is a stock bottom end, i guess ill just blow it up and rebuild it haha, and ill take your advice on the injectors, thanks. I think ive decided on the comp 3bb 7879 turbo. Im gonna go with the oil less so i dont have to deal with tapping the pan cause that doesnt look like fun
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2016 Dodge Durango [Kat]
2007 Honda CRF-80 [Little Toni]
2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale R [Luci]
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01-16-2015, 05:37 PM
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Location: Old Bridge, NJ/Corpus Christi, TX
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That cam is gonna really suck with boost IMO. You don't want something with an lsa like that in a turbo app (For example my cam is on a 114+5 lsa).
Spend some money on a quality wastegate. I wouldn't trust a chinese gate. One cheap stuck wastegate can take out a lot of even more expensive parts. Jon from Huron is a turbosmart dealer and can get you a good price on them, especially if you buy the kit and accessories at the same time (I run twin turbosmart 45's and a turbosmart 50mm bov on my car).
You are going to want to upgrade your fuel pump setup, as a single 255 won't cut it. I like to overbuild with fuel systems so I would recommend a twin setup, but you may be able to get away with one big pump depending on your power goals. I didnt see you mention any other fuel upgrades, so I'm going to remommend doing a regulator and lines as well. -8 feed from the tank and either a -6 return or use your stock feed as a return. Get a good *boost referenced* fuel pressure regulator. This will raise fuel pressure on a 1:1 scale with boost so you can make sure you are getting enough fuel, and make your tuner's life a little easier. I have a Magnafuel regulator on my car but pretty much any boost referenced fpr will do
LS6 clutch is going to laugh at boost. I'd definitely beef that up.
I can recommend a few more things, but it all honestly depends on what your power goals are and what you plan on actually doing with the car when you are done...
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01-17-2015, 04:47 PM
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Read through the wsex turbo build. That should give you some Good tips.
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01-17-2015, 08:06 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Yeah, you'll get really good at swapping motors.
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1998 Z-28 - SLP lid - Ported TB - LS6 Intake - Dynatech SS headers/Catted Y - Magnaflow Exh - 3.42 - Yank SS3600 - UMI weld-in subframe connectors, Adj LCA, Adj PHB, Q1A TA - Bolt-in Relocation Brackets - Strano springs - Koni shocks - 17" C6Z06 wheels - 326HP/335ft-lbs - 12.35 @ 110.41
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Originally Posted by Blackbirdws6
I can appreciate a dream but this person needed some real friends.
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02-03-2015, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Great thanks for all the input guys, im planning on this being a relatively conservative build, but i do certainly heed all of your advice.
Unfortunately, i dont think i can bring myself to sell my jeep as of yet (i just love it too much), and that seems to be the only way i would be able to afford to do most of this stuff within the year.
In light of that fact i will probably order a 4.10 center section (still havent decided on spool or wavetack), and run around heads and cam for this season. I will still have my turbo kit with all the piping and what not because ive already placed the deposit, but ill have to piece everything else together slowly.
Admins: I will still keep this thread up to date with my build progression pictures and what not, however if this is taking up space or whatever i wont be upset if it gets deleted.
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02-05-2015, 09:20 AM
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Also, minor detail, but make sure you either make or acquire a four corner water vapor kit. Underrated piece that significantly helps in keeping the stock rear pistons alive with boost and even n/a.
Something like the Kurt Urban Water Vapor kit is a good one.
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02-06-2015, 08:48 AM
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Thanks for the heads up, ill add that to my list. im gonna need a tune for this spring before OCMD xrelapse13, after i install the 9" i have, and im thinking of running 4.10's for this summer
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02-06-2015, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grazi
Read through the wsex turbo build. That should give you some Good tips.
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Slap in the face
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In all honesty, unless you have some weird addiction to your motor, go LSX. It will be cheaper, easier, and actually be able to be tuned.
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02-06-2015, 12:27 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grazi
Read through the wsex turbo build. That should give you some Good tips.
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It is a good example of what not to do..
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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02-06-2015, 12:29 PM
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Location: East Brunswick
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It is a good example of what not to do..
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where we're going we don't need bearing clearances
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02-07-2015, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
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where we're going we don't need bearing clearances
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but they said lsx was cookie cutter plug and play...
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Originally Posted by LTb1ow
In all honesty, unless you have some weird addiction to your motor, go LSX. It will be cheaper, easier, and actually be able to be tuned.
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04-09-2015, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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so a quick update; i ordered my center sections ... strange with a wavetrack diff and 4.11 gears, that will head under their this weekend (April 11&12, if anyone wants to lend a hand, pm me, free beer will be included!) I also ordered a bmr tunnel mount torque arm and relo mount with d/s loop, spohn chromo d/s with 1350 yoke, all of which will be going in this weekend along with the aforementioned sjm abs delete/ line lock, and straight throttle cable to delete cruise control as well. Wish me luck.
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2016 Dodge Durango [Kat]
2007 Honda CRF-80 [Little Toni]
2014 Ducati 1199 Panigale R [Luci]
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06-04-2015, 03:44 PM
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So a little update, the cold side shipped today and I basically CANT WAIT to see what this thing looks like haha.
In other news I'm still working on the rear, but I've got a bunch of pictures that i will post up when i get the chance.
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