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11-27-2008, 06:37 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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4th Gen K member
Is it worth it? A new UMI one goes for 400 ish. I would only be doing the K and retaining stock arms for now. If it is worth it, how hard is it?
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 06:43 PM
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11 Second Club
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Whats wrong with the one in yoyur car now?
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
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11-27-2008, 06:47 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Its stock.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 06:55 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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unless you ran out of things to spend money on, I wait until
A) you pull he motor or something substantial like that or
b) you arevery concerned with weight reduction and need to shed pounds
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-27-2008, 06:56 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Kinda ran out of things to spend money, and UMI has a thanksgiving sale....
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 07:04 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Kinda ran out of things to spend money....
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put it in the bank
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-27-2008, 07:07 PM
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11 Second Club
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
1995 Z28 Camaro: LT1 B+B triflow catback, ZR1 rims, KN CAI, 58mm BBK TB, brand new genuine Opti.
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Doesnt look like you ran out of things to spend money on...
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1999 Z28 Convertible. 6 speed swap, wide cowl hood, full hockey stripes, and a whining 10 bolt.
2008 Sierra Vortec Max. 6.2 swapped, headers, Magnaflow catback, GMPP CAI, NHT optioned tow package.
2006 GTO, 11.48 @ 118.3
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11-27-2008, 07:17 PM
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Resident Camera Guy
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It allows you to actually change your spark plugs from the bottom. That's about the only major benefit I've noticed so far with my car
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11-27-2008, 07:24 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Originally Posted by NJ Torque
Doesnt look like you ran out of things to spend money on...
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Seeing is believing. ![Wink](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif) And I can change plugs in less than a 1/2 hr.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 08:41 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ar0ck
It allows you to actually change your spark plugs from the bottom. That's about the only major benefit I've noticed so far with my car ![Laughing](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Do you have any pics of yours?
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Seeing is believing. ![Wink](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif) And I can change plugs in less than a 1/2 hr.
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lol wanna do mine?
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4 33x10.50 15 procomp xterrains
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11-27-2008, 08:46 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Stock manifolds? If so, hellll nooo.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-27-2008, 10:39 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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get two. i'll take one thanks!
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11-28-2008, 09:15 AM
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10 Second Club
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get a real tune instead so that thing can make it down the street
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11-28-2008, 10:13 AM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Kinda ran out of things to spend money, and UMI has a thanksgiving sale....
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save it and buy a LS1 car
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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11-28-2008, 11:55 AM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
save it and buy a LS1 car ![Mr. Green](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Thats good advice right there .....
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-28-2008, 03:51 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Bah, I like my boat anchor. Opti and everything. I am looking at a BMR K member for 350 delivered, brand new. So its really tempting.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-28-2008, 05:07 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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The UMI K-members are vastly stiffer than stock as well as being a substantial weight savings. This means a decrease in cowl shake and a massive improvement in handling.
The K-member is a great mod if you have the coin for it. Personally, I would take care of the rear suspension first since that is lacking a lot more than the front design on 3rd/4th gens.
I have a UMI Chassis Mount Torque Arm(Chromoly of course ![Very Happy](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif) ) and the difference is night and day from stock on the gas, on teh brakes, and especially playing around from the center off of corners
-Tim
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11-28-2008, 05:19 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Torque arms are expensive
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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11-28-2008, 05:42 PM
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11 second club / Moderator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Torque arms are expensive ![Sad](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
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cheaper then a whole k member/a arm setup and worth more in terms of usefullness
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-28-2008, 05:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Torque arms are expensive ![Sad](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
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Don't think about the money. Buy the torque arm, adjustable rear control arms, adjustable panhard bar, K-member, upper and lower control arms, and coilover QA1s. Live large.
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12-02-2008, 01:03 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
The UMI K-members are vastly stiffer than stock as well as being a substantial weight savings. This means a decrease in cowl shake and a massive improvement in handling.
The K-member is a great mod if you have the coin for it. Personally, I would take care of the rear suspension first since that is lacking a lot more than the front design on 3rd/4th gens.
I have a UMI Chassis Mount Torque Arm(Chromoly of course ![Very Happy](http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif) ) and the difference is night and day from stock on the gas, on teh brakes, and especially playing around from the center off of corners
-Tim
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Timmay, shed some more light onto the T/A in your car, whats it set at, and did you get the full length or the cross mount one?
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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12-02-2008, 06:49 AM
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12 Second Club
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if your buying a k member atleast make sure its the one that can fit twin turbos
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12-02-2008, 09:36 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Do you still have the stock 10 bolt?
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12-02-2008, 09:38 AM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Timmay, shed some more light onto the T/A in your car, whats it set at, and did you get the full length or the cross mount one?
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Mine is the shorter design that goes to the chassis. UMI, chromoly construction, adjustable, pinion angle is 0 to the DS.
Whatever brand you look at, getting it off of the transmission. The last thing you need is the car trying to plant and the tranny mount moving all over the place.
The shorter arm is also supposed to react quicker, can't say I normally drive hard enough to test this, but the physics would seem to support it. If you are a masterful driver and can find the limit of thresh hold braking, you may find some rear wheel chatter, but I don't see it as highly likely that any of us here are braking hard enough or from a high enough speed to get that far ahead of the weight transfer of the car.
I think everyone should make a good torque arm their first chassis upgrade. It makes the biggest difference of any chassis part on any 3rd or 4th gen.
-Tim
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