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10-27-2008, 10:28 PM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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my faceplated T56 experience
i installed it today. Since i read other peoples threads about them, i knew exactly what to expect
shifting straight into first will clunk a little. i found shifting into 5th gear, then back into 1st solves that problem
shifting normal makes a clunking sound while going into gear
downshifting without rev matching will make a clunk/sort of grind sound
solution- double clutch it and/or rev match. doing this makes it go in smooth and noise free
1/4 mile runs/fast shifting- OMG i love it. just like ive read before- the harder you drive it, the smoother it goes in
for the hell of it i tried powershifting. that isnt a problem, just keep your right foot flat and bump the clutch while shifting, goes right in
theres no noise while cruising in any gear.
i will get in-car video as soon as it stops raining and is dry enough so i can get traction.
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2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
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10-27-2008, 10:32 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Sorry for the newbness, but whats a faceplated T56 entail?
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10-28-2008, 02:31 AM
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So you have to heel-toe this thing when you downshift? I am also at a lose for the term "faceplate". It sounds like you no longer have synchros cause your saying your having a little trouble getting it into gear unless you match the RPMS and you get a clunk when engaging.
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10-28-2008, 09:10 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacdout96
So you have to heel-toe this thing when you downshift? I am also at a lose for the term "faceplate". It sounds like you no longer have synchros cause your saying your having a little trouble getting it into gear unless you match the RPMS and you get a clunk when engaging.
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I am at a loss as well. Ron, could you clarify?
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10-28-2008, 02:12 PM
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1997 2500 Ext. Cab Dodge 4x4 CTD 5spd (The Earth Mover)
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10-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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1985 383 Camaro-nothing special I promise
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10-28-2008, 02:14 PM
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DAMMIT you really are 1QWIKBIRD...
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10-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Gotcha. I was familiar with the pro-shifted gears but not the faceplated. That's pretty cool.
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10-28-2008, 02:59 PM
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Meet Coordinator
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oh i get it now. thats cool stuff.
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10-28-2008, 05:05 PM
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10 Second Club; Has fan club
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sorry fellas, i just got home a lil while ago and checked this thread
im sure liberty's site explains it.
basically, theres no synchros from 1-4th gear. 5th, 6th and reverse retain them,
it wont pop out of gear upon decel like the proshifted transmissions
annd its very streetable for what it is. however if your 6spd car is your main DD or only car, i wouldnt do it.
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Originally Posted by Blacdout96
So you have to heel-toe this thing when you downshift? I am also at a lose for the term "faceplate". It sounds like you no longer have synchros cause your saying your having a little trouble getting it into gear unless you match the RPMS and you get a clunk when engaging.
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it goes in easy, it will just clunk unless the rpms are matched. and where im so used to driving my T56s with bad 3-4 synchros and not grinding (normal driving), its pretty easy for me to drive this one with no synchros
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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10-29-2008, 12:14 PM
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Was this 'specialized' work you had done or just got a new trans already like this ?
I'm looking for whatever it takes to make a T-56 last behind a BBC and/or a hi-rpm LSx of the same power variety (for road course/auto-x).
Not in the market now, but I am looking and learning....
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10-29-2008, 05:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rscamaro73
Was this 'specialized' work you had done or just got a new trans already like this ?
I'm looking for whatever it takes to make a T-56 last behind a BBC and/or a hi-rpm LSx of the same power variety (for road course/auto-x).
Not in the market now, but I am looking and learning....
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i bought it like that from a member on LS1tech. you can get your trans built strong without the faceplating setup. I just wanted to experience this trans for myself
sixspeedsinc has a couple stages and decent pricing.
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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10-31-2008, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 98tadriver
i bought it like that from a member on LS1tech. you can get your trans built strong without the faceplating setup. I just wanted to experience this trans for myself
sixspeedsinc has a couple stages and decent pricing.
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I saw that on LS1 but I didnt want it. Now that I read your review I wish I had gotten it!
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02-13-2009, 08:12 PM
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a little update on this, its still holding up great, and ive pretty much mastered street driving it and last year it was great ripping thru the gears down the track. on WOT runs, it sounds almost automatic at times and this is without powershifting or clutchless shifting
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
Last edited by 98tadriver; 02-13-2009 at 08:13 PM.
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02-14-2009, 05:11 PM
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I wouldn't reccommend this for everyone but we build alot of these in case anyone is interested? 6 speeds and TKO 500/600 5 speeds. Had one in my mustang 10-15 yrs. ago all but went into the eights. Again not for everybody! Bob
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02-14-2009, 09:15 PM
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Bob, what do you recommend doing for road racing trans? I dont need one to go into the 8's, I need one to handle all the harsh shifting. will there be that awsome whine from the trans as well? lol
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Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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02-15-2009, 09:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacdout96
Bob, what do you recommend doing for road racing trans? I dont need one to go into the 8's, I need one to handle all the harsh shifting. will there be that awsome whine from the trans as well? lol
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I will assume that this is a part time street car road race car? If so I would probably think about converting it to a triple cone blocker ring arrangement like on the Corvette, GTO and Caddy. Pretty expenxive conversion. I do have a customer that has a GTO box that I refreshed that wants to sell it. Call me if your interested.
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02-15-2009, 10:53 AM
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Mr Fantastic
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ron, you never got us a video you liar
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02-15-2009, 05:37 PM
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ron, you never got us a video you liar
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You got to hear it at TTP's last Dyno Day....
- Justin
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02-15-2009, 05:40 PM
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Ebearnezer Scrooge/Power Member/Lips
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I didn't get to see it
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02-15-2009, 05:56 PM
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NJFBOA Co-Founder
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Let's just say that putting it in gear involves a loud and rather disconcerting clunk noise
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02-15-2009, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
Let's just say that putting it in gear involves a loud and rather disconcerting clunk noise
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thats exactly what i want lol. dont ask why, I just love the sound.
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
Uh yeah, after they surprized buttsecks us at Pearl Harbor?
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02-16-2009, 05:31 PM
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Doing it for the sound?
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dumbass.
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02-16-2009, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
Let's just say that putting it in gear involves a loud and rather disconcerting clunk noise
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thats IF u dont rev match it lol. its quiet most of the time when i drive it. and matt, ill get you a inside video sometime soon. i just need a camera person. Ill get morgan freeman to narrarate as i drive lol. but yeah ill get that video sometime soon hopefully
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01' Z06 62k miles. Vararam, Longtubes, off road xpipe, tuned by me. Times TBA
2001 Corvette, Bolt ons , tuned 10.75@124.56 mph 1.38 60' Sold
1997 Saturn Sc1 5spd DOHC swapped
Bolt ons, decked head, stock intake cam on exhaust side, lotsa weight redux
13.22@102.32 mph 1.93 60'
12's on moda? One day
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02-16-2009, 06:15 PM
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How does one rev match first Ron? lol
If you hadn't warned us what was gonna happen before he put it in reverse I would have sworn that something broke. lol
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