Project Carbon Fiber - Page 2 - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

rbaksi · 06-21-2009, 11:19 PM

looks great I thought about filling mine in but I like that cupholder

Jam · 06-21-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rbaksi

looks great I thought about filling mine in but I like that cupholder

thanks man.but you probably don't drive manual then. cause most m6 drivers will beg to differ.

Teds89IROC · 06-22-2009, 05:19 PM

Looks good, only thing I'd suggest to anyone doing this is to sand down the edges of the cupholder before you fill it with foam so you don't see a seem when you're all done. If you're covering it with CF then it probably won't show through. I like it.

Jam · 06-22-2009, 06:50 PM

thanks ted but yeah those pics are before I went over it w/ one more coat of body filler. and the carbon fiber will definitely hide the little minute imperfections.

Jared1970Chevelle · 06-25-2009, 01:39 AM

can your friend get big weave carbon fiber?

Jam · 06-25-2009, 01:50 AM

I'm just using what he has left over. I'll check out his stash and let you know when I see him.

Jam · 07-13-2009, 11:28 PM

Update: don't think I forgot about this... the person I was relying on to supply me w/ the carbon fiber dicked me over. I just came to the realization today... so I ordered the stuff myself:

- Epoxy resin 1 quart w/ slow hardener
- 3K 2x2 Carbon Fiber Twill 50"Wx12"L
- carbon fiber friendly degreaser
- home depot mixing sticks (free)
- polishing compound
- UPOL UV Resistant High Gloss Clear Coat (amazing stuff)
- 3 White Bristle Laminating Brushes
- and a couple of different wet/dry grits

to be continued...

NastyEllEssWon · 08-20-2009, 10:59 AM

well since mr. jam has been banned on the site...id think id do everyone here a solid and show you the finished results of the project carbon fiber.

enjoy justin

sweetbmxrider · 08-20-2009, 11:08 AM

link?

little rough around the edges

Blacdout96 · 08-20-2009, 11:18 AM

Well thats what happens when you lay it on a product without doing a vacuum mold. To get that glass smooth version, it takes special epoxy, and certain layers to put over it while doing the vacuum mold to accomplish that. Although pure race cars interiors arent needing to me astetic and can often look like this.

btw, why was jam banned?

NastyEllEssWon · 08-20-2009, 11:20 AM

jam was banned for playing tommy toughnuts with mods, admins and owners

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appear...n-fiber-2.html

Blacdout96 · 08-20-2009, 11:30 AM

Ahh.. Yeah I have about 3ft X 18ft structural 3M carbon Fibre I got from when I worked at Viking, Im dying to use it on something. It's structural not visual, so it wouldn't dlook pleasing to put on a part such as that, but my god is this stuff light.

What he should of done was take one giant piece, lay it over, and cut out the approiate holes ( shifter, etc) leaving leftover to hang. when epoxy is applied, carbon fiber, fiberglass, and such can be bended and moved in a way to make it smooth without having to add aditional layers for areas you think it wouldnt bend to. I'll have to grab some carbon fiber from one of my friends and cover something and give you guys a step by step photo and written sticky of how to do it, sounds good?

sweetbmxrider · 08-20-2009, 11:57 AM

that would be cool to learn. could probably apply it to vinyl for the dash pad, right?

Blacdout96 · 08-20-2009, 12:08 PM

Yeah, you can apply it to just about anything. the surface just has to be prepared right. our dashes are almost ready to be used since its a rough surface, but anything like armorall and other wax cleaners would have to be removed. In all fairness, choosing the right carbon fiber and epoxy resin instead of the cheapo stuff will pay for itself in the long run. I've seen people apply fiberglass resin to c.f., which can be done, but cracks over time, and also creates a yello haze to it after being exposed to the sun for a while. buying the right c.f. specific with last years longer, which is why you don't see alot of peopel using c.f. on their own, not only is carbon fiber expensive, but the resin is worse in price.

WildBillyT · 08-20-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

jam was banned for playing tommy toughnuts with mods, admins and owners

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appear...n-fiber-2.html

It was more than that. People flex nuts at us all the time, and we ban almost nobody.

Leave it at that please.

NastyEllEssWon · 08-20-2009, 12:37 PM

bah i just thought these results were pretty funny and decided to share them with njfboa to complete this project thread

Blacdout96 · 08-20-2009, 01:08 PM

It's kind of a train wreck to me. not bad for a first timer, got the epoxy to cure, but theres alot of care, and time that should of been used to havea better outcome. Wish he would of handed it over to me, would of came out better.

Mike · 08-20-2009, 01:34 PM

i like the ashtray and cup holder delete......maybe ill do one minus the cf.....maybe wrap it in vinyl or maybe just get it super smooth and paint it ebony

PolarBear · 08-20-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96

It's kind of a train wreck to me.

That epoxy looks super thick, I doubt he used a squeege to wet out the fabric.... You can get parts to look nice without vacuum bagging

Blacdout96 · 08-20-2009, 02:32 PM

It's a better process, making sure you get the epoxy throughly through the threads, and also forms a tighter, more uniform seal on molds, giving itthat mirro finish. Personally, unless its a body panel, vacuum molding isnt necessary, but it wouldnt hurt to give a little show. the dullness on the console is fine, I like that, doesnt look chincy, it's got that authentic carbon fiber look, but the fit and finish didnt come out to hot. If you look at any modern day race car, besides the exterior panels, they have that dullness.

and yeah looks like the console was angled a certain way, allowing the epoxy to puddle near where the cigarette lighter was. It doesnt take much to make it look good, but it can take shortcuts to make it look like crap. Once again I know it's his first time, but a little patience could of gone farther with the finish. he could of used an epoxy roller to get any air bubbles out and spread the epoxy out. it's like a dollar tool thats disposible.

PolarBear · 08-20-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96

It's a better process, making sure you get the epoxy throughly through the threads, and also forms a tighter, more uniform seal on molds, giving itthat mirro finish.

Rarely does a part come out of a vacuum mold with a mirror finish. It is smooth but it is very porus as the vacuum pulls out the excess resin. You really need to clear coat a overlay piece or in a mold you need to apply a gelcoat first to get a nice finish.

transmaro93 · 08-20-2009, 07:54 PM

hey adam... did i call this one or what?? hahah member we talked about this a while back... hahah oh well at least he gave it a shot.... cant kill em for that...

Teds89IROC · 08-20-2009, 08:30 PM

oh man

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Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Ahh.. Yeah I have about 3ft X 18ft structural 3M carbon Fibre I got from when I worked at Viking

as in Viking Yachts?

bubba428 · 08-20-2009, 08:39 PM

yup viking yachts...R&D I believe

Jersey Mike · 08-20-2009, 09:30 PM

Where'd you find those pics? That the final product? (I thought I read that he was going to wrap it one more time..)