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B4C 03-07-2013 05:45 PM

Dont have the money for the s60 right now and dont feel like throwing extra money at something im not going to keep. The eaton did hold up to 30k miles and over 50 track passes when I had it and I bought it used.

Sprayed 99 03-07-2013 06:49 PM

But how many of those track passes did u actually 60' really hard? That is what will kill the eaton. Lanchin hard on sticky tires will kill it real fast. You could just upgrade your axles and throw in a locker or spool and be done. 12 bolts are pretty strong when done up right. And s60's weigh so friggin much.....you could pick up a used 9" cheaper and its def lighter.

Just my .02........i speak from experiance.....not opinion

Featherburner 03-07-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99 (Post 873402)
And s60's weigh so friggin much.....you could pick up a used 9" cheaper and its def lighter.

And weaker, and rob more HP...

Sprayed 99 03-07-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 873412)
And weaker, and rob more HP...

The s60 or 9"?

ShortFuse 03-07-2013 07:12 PM

Man up get a spool if u worried bout how it will handle u should t even be behind the wheel of an fbody

B4C 03-07-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99 (Post 873402)
But how many of those track passes did u actually 60' really hard? That is what will kill the eaton. Lanchin hard on sticky tires will kill it real fast. You could just upgrade your axles and throw in a locker or spool and be done. 12 bolts are pretty strong when done up right. And s60's weigh so friggin much.....you could pick up a used 9" cheaper and its def lighter.

Just my .02........i speak from experiance.....not opinion

Im not going to be racing on it, dont want it to start whining again after a few launches. For the price of a used 9in I can get a new s60....Ill be looking at both when I go to buy tho.

ShortFuse 03-07-2013 07:23 PM

Ten bolt an a spool you'll be good bud ��

B4C 03-07-2013 07:26 PM

Yeah ill do that, anyone want to trade a 12 bolt for a spooled 10 bolt?

Featherburner 03-07-2013 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sprayed 99 (Post 873422)
The s60 or 9"?

9".

BonzoHansen 03-07-2013 07:30 PM

if ya got a 9" can't you have a few center sections so you can run a spool at the track and then a real dif for the street miles where you have logged over 30,000 miles? I always thought that flexibility was the cool factor with a 9"

ShortFuse 03-07-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 873429)
9".

So your really sayin a 9 inch is weaker then an s60

Sprayed 99 03-07-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Featherburner (Post 873429)
9".

Have you ever seen back to back dyno comparisons between the rears in the same car? The difference is small. And how is strength an issue with properly set up 9" in an 11 sec car? The 9" in my car is good to over 1500 hp.......how is that not strong?

k_garretson23 03-07-2013 09:50 PM

the s60's ring gear is 3/4" bigger than a 9"....please explain to me how a 9" is stronger? The s60 weighs all of 20lbs more than a 9". That difference is next to miniscule. If youre that worried about 20 pound go on a diet.

ShortFuse 03-08-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by k_garretson23 (Post 873457)
the s60's ring gear is 3/4" bigger than a 9"....please explain to me how a 9" is stronger? The s60 weighs all of 20lbs more than a 9". That difference is next to miniscule. If youre that worried about 20 pound go on a diet.

When u start goin fast that 20 lbs will make a big difference and a fabricated rear such as the fab 9 or m9 is stronger then the s60 with less drivetrain loss

WildBillyT 03-08-2013 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by k_garretson23 (Post 873457)
the s60's ring gear is 3/4" bigger than a 9"....please explain to me how a 9" is stronger? The s60 weighs all of 20lbs more than a 9". That difference is next to miniscule. If youre that worried about 20 pound go on a diet.

3/4" bigger in diameter but the toe to heel thickness of the gear is smaller. Dana loses in that case.

Sprayed 99 03-08-2013 10:16 AM

Fab 9" Way more than 20lb lighter........and there are 6 sec cars sportin 9".........plenty strong enough for 11 sec slug

LTb1ow 03-08-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ShortFuse (Post 873501)
When u start goin fast that 20 lbs will make a big difference and a fabricated rear such as the fab 9 or m9 is stronger then the s60 with less drivetrain loss

S60 also only has gear sets down to a 3.55 area

Sprayed 99 03-08-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT (Post 873526)
3/4" bigger in diameter but the toe to heel thickness of the gear is smaller. Dana loses in that case.

This8-)

Lt1_8U 03-08-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stealth355tpi (Post 873351)
Spool on the street here, just have to know what you can and can't do. I've got a Detroit locker with less then 1000miles on it but its for 33 spline.

This, you can't go making tight corners. I upgraded my studs to arp and never had a problem. I also never broke a rear... Your not trying to make it handle, spool it and be done

BonzoHansen 03-08-2013 03:42 PM

I suspect the spool supporters are not putting 5,000+ miles a year on the car. The more you drive it the more of a chance you are taking. Fine for a race car, asking for trouble with every additional street mile. ARP studs do not remove all risk.

LTb1ow 03-08-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 873565)
I suspect the spool supporters are not putting 5,000+ miles a year on the car. The more you drive it the more of a chance you are taking. Fine for a race car, asking for trouble with every additional street mile. ARP studs do not remove all risk.

Can you show any documented proof or examples of the idea you are proposing about spools and street use?

Lt1_8U 03-08-2013 04:03 PM

My trans am got driven every day on the street for over a year

BonzoHansen 03-08-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LTb1ow (Post 873570)
Can you show any documented proof or examples of the idea you are proposing about spools and street use?

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 873326)
No, I’ve always listened to the professionals that know more than I do that say spools are not for the street and can cause broken axles and studs. I don’t need to have it happen to me personally to know it’s wrong. But I have seen the damage on other people’s cars.

I can't add to my last answer (edit, yes I can, it can cause tire wear issues too). People are allowed to do as they please.

This is one of the topics that the "for" people will defend to the hilt and the "against" people will stay in their corner and no amount of added information changes anyone's mind. It's one of those "if I didn't see it happen it's BS". Ok. To each their own.

Sprayed 99 03-08-2013 06:10 PM

Alot of bad information and fail in this thread............hope the OP can sort out the bs and make a logical decision.............

LTb1ow 03-08-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen (Post 873573)
I can't add to my last answer (edit, yes I can, it can cause tire wear issues too). People are allowed to do as they please.

This is one of the topics that the "for" people will defend to the hilt and the "against" people will stay in their corner and no amount of added information changes anyone's mind. It's one of those "if I didn't see it happen it's BS". Ok. To each their own.

I am merely curious about where the internet fallacy comes from. It seems there is always someone who says it will cause the end of the world and someone who says they daily it 10k miles a year with 5 parallel parking jobs a day.

So, a example of why it is so bad would be nice here.


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