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Tsar 07-22-2006 10:13 AM

politicians are funny...
 
38 SENATORS VOTED TODAY (awhile ago) AGAINST MAKING ENGLISH THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF
AMERICA
:rofl:

Below are the ones that voted against. I wonder what they were thinking :huh:

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton(D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

camarokev 07-22-2006 10:17 AM

uhm... yeah, I'll be the jerk who points this out... but they are almost ALL Democrats... only one repub on that list... lol. :-P

Tsar 07-22-2006 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by camarokev
uhm... yeah, I'll be the jerk who points this out... but they are almost ALL Democrats... only one repub on that list... lol. :-P

i thought it was just funny that they voted against it :lol:

Frosty 07-22-2006 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camarokev
uhm... yeah, I'll be the jerk who points this out... but they are almost ALL Democrats... only one repub on that list... lol. :-P

No kidding, pathetic isn't it? This country needs a ****ing wakeup call.

jola 07-22-2006 02:52 PM

Voter constituencies!!! A lot of those states look like they have high hispanic/minority populations.

79CamaroDiva 07-22-2006 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jola
Voter constituencies!!! A lot of those states look like they have high hispanic/minority populations.

there's just a generally high minority population anyhow, its hard to call them minorities anymore... i wouldnt say that a lot of those states have a high hispanic population, the one's i bolded, unless someone says otherwise, i think are pretty 'white' states...

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)

Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton(D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)

Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)

Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)

Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)

Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)

Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

jola 07-22-2006 04:11 PM

Negative. You are either a majority, a minority, equal numbers, or none of the above (as in no majorities, all populations less then 50%). Non-Hispanic whites are still the majority, so as long as there are at least 51% non-Hispanic whites, all other races are a minority.

For some of those senators, they may have been voting based on principle. Our forefathers didn't see a need, why should we? Or, America is about freedom, etc. For others, such as NJ or HI, I would think the vote was a result of constituencies.

Oddball 07-22-2006 05:36 PM

They want the Spanish-speaking vote?

Remember most politicians do anything to stay in office.

johnjzjz 07-22-2006 06:29 PM

its just sad we all try to do the right thing, if you work for a living, differ on how and what, but in the end the ship is being driven buy greed and self worth, cant believe the dems party has been stolen by self interest and its voting block is letting them do it --- maybe i only see it that way jz

Rob WS6 07-22-2006 07:14 PM

What percentage does it require for the bill to pass?

Teds89IROC 07-22-2006 08:16 PM

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~Ted

The Fixer 07-22-2006 08:19 PM

Damn, I'm normally a Democrat, but that just irks me. WTF are these people thinking??

johnjzjz 07-22-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TPI Monte SS
Damn, I'm normally a Democrat, but that just irks me. WTF are these people thinking??



its all about getting re elected and who they think will be voting for them they all think the same way jz

BigAls87Z28 07-23-2006 01:54 AM

2/3's house and 2/3's senate from what I can remember from middle school.

johnjzjz 07-23-2006 07:21 AM

in jersey it might as well be we need another state has to vote as well, its what 90 percent Democrat in jersey in Trenton not going to get anything done its all locked up on one side -- jz

firehawk1120 07-24-2006 04:02 PM

yup jersey is full of dip **** democraps because we have cities like Newark, Trenton, Camden, etc...

Savage_Messiah 07-25-2006 01:38 AM

Hey all you red asses

Quote:

Originally Posted by jola
For some of those senators, they may have been voting based on principle. Our forefathers didn't see a need, why should we? Or, America is about freedom, etc.


firehawk1120 07-25-2006 04:23 PM

America may be about freedom, but that doesn't mean I should have to ****ing learn spanish to get my money out of the bank, order food, explain how to do something etc.

I say if you can't speak the language of the country as it was originally founded upon you shouldn't be allowed in.

Frosty 07-25-2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firehawk1120
America may be about freedom, but that doesn't mean I should have to ****ing learn spanish to get my money out of the bank, order food, explain how to do something etc.

I say if you can't speak the language of the country as it was originally founded upon you shouldn't be allowed in.

While I agree this country never had and still doesn't have an official language.

BigAls87Z28 07-26-2006 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firehawk1120
America may be about freedom, but that doesn't mean I should have to ****ing learn spanish to get my money out of the bank, order food, explain how to do something etc.

I say if you can't speak the language of the country as it was originally founded upon you shouldn't be allowed in.

I agree that spanish shouldnt replace english, but to say that if you cant speak the launguage, you shouldnt be allowed? Most of the people on this site would not be here if there was such a law, including yourself.

jola 07-26-2006 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firehawk1120
America may be about freedom, but that doesn't mean I should have to ****ing learn spanish to get my money out of the bank, order food, explain how to do something etc.

I say if you can't speak the language of the country as it was originally founded upon you shouldn't be allowed in.

Honestly, and this could be my area of Jersey, but I've never, and I mean never, had to speak spanish to do any of those activities mentioned. I think some people (not targeting you here, saying in general) just get a bit overzealous about culture and language. Every second generation Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, etc., person that I know speaks fluent English, and many also speak fluent Spanish. I think not speaking English hinders those unable to speak it more then the rest of the country. My 2 cents right there.

qwikz28 07-26-2006 11:11 AM

question: what would change if english is no longer the official language of the US? will anyone be able speak any language they want? or have we just decided that spanish is cooler? don't give me that BS that you cant get citizenship if you dont speak english cause everyone hear knows of a grandparent that doesnt know a lick of english.

Tsar 07-26-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwikz28
question: what would change if english is no longer the official language of the US? will anyone be able speak any language they want? or have we just decided that spanish is cooler? don't give me that BS that you cant get citizenship if you dont speak english cause everyone hear knows of a grandparent that doesnt know a lick of english.

bubba United States does NOT have an official language, thats what the thread is about.


oh and i passed my citizenship test while still slightly intoxicated, it was a joke.

bad64chevelle 07-26-2006 12:04 PM

I am kind of neutral on this subject (even considering how redneck I can be sometimes) I know America is about freedom and that people should be able to choose what language they speak, but at the same time it kinda irks the **** out of me how everything is in 15 languages now. ehh who knows :shrug:

jola 07-26-2006 12:18 PM

The citizenship test is very easy...nothing an immigrant who knows very little about the US couldn't pass with a few hours worth of studying and memorization.


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