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BigAls87Z28 10-06-2004 10:26 PM

Holden Torana Concept
 
This is from GM Inside News. Enjoy.

Here are pictures of the Holden Torana TT36 concept From the Sydney Auto Show. This car is based on an extended version of the new Kappa platform, which GMI reported on last week. This new platform is rumored to be the possible basis of a Chevy coupe (Camaro?) and a new Pontiac. That leads us to guess this is the "mystery Pontiac", eluded to in the scan of a dealer magazine that GMI published this weekend. The new Pontiac would likely follow the same 4 door formula as the Torana to distance itself from the Solstice and GTO. It is also rumored that this platform will accommodate the GM OHV V8 engine series, which makes things a bit interesting! I bet GMI's article on the 4 door Kappa that got published in Car & Driver makes a lot more sense now....

The Basics-

TT36 stands for Twin Turbo 3.6l

It will be a 4 door Hatchback

3.6 litre v6 twin turbo 280kw Alloytec was hand built at Holden engine plant in Port Melbourne

6 speed manual

Differential Ratios 3.73:1

Brakes Ventilated disk 365 mm front and rear
6 piston front / 4 piston rear

wheel / tyre 20" x8" 245/35-20 10 spoke 20 inch alloys

Colour is luminous , look at me pink - dubbed ManGenta

It is a 4 seater interior is minimalist black and white

Seats are 8 way electric

The roof is is a panoramic glass roof extends from the steeply naked windscreen all the way to the back hatch.

The project was originally called XP54 ,reflecting the acronym eXperomental Project and coded 54 in recognition of holdens so called studio 54 design workshop in out suburbs of Melbourne


Sorry for the slight delay, it takes time to download high resolution pictures, resize them, and put our nice professional logo on them. I could have downloaded the low-resolution ones and scribbled our name across them in a teenage fit of passion....but that's not very professional :D


http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_002.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_005.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_006.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_011.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_012.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_016.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_017.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_024.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_034.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_035.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_036.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_040.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_042.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_049.jpg
http://www.GMInsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_050.jpg

79dizZy28 10-06-2004 10:48 PM

I'd love to see it in another color, say black? haha, but from what i can see i think i like it

BigAls87Z28 10-06-2004 10:51 PM

Here is a "Pontiac" Version done by the All-Mighty Rex Raider of GMI.

http://www.sub300.com/gm/pcon.jpg

79dizZy28 10-06-2004 10:52 PM

nice, yeah i can definetly dig one of those

NJSPEEDER 10-07-2004 12:09 AM

it looks a lot liek a maxima to me. sort of a maxima on crack in a techno club rollin hard with light sticks......wow, taht doesn't even make sense to me. lol

later
tim

BigAls87Z28 10-07-2004 01:03 AM

http://www.sub300.com/gm/ccon2.jpg

This is the Camaro-ized one.

79dizZy28 10-07-2004 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER
sort of a maxima on crack in a techno club rollin hard with light sticks......

remember now....
:hail: :hail: GLOWSTICKS/CLUBBIN

what price range would these cars look to fit in??

ar0ck 10-07-2004 03:13 PM

It screams Acura all over it. It looks very similiar to my dads 04 TSX'

skorpion317 10-07-2004 03:27 PM

the new Camaro will be based on the Zeta platform, i believe.

foff667 10-07-2004 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skorpion317
the new Camaro will be based on the Zeta platform, i believe.

if anyone on this forum knows the goins on with the camaro its alex.

BigAls87Z28 10-07-2004 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skorpion317
the new Camaro will be based on the Zeta platform, i believe.

Well, with this car adds more "wtf" to the equation.

The problem, and therefor the "wtf" is that it doesnt seem that Zeta can get small enough. Its small enough to be GTO or even Monte/Chevelle size....but not Camaro size.

Now, from what I understand, this is how it went down behind the GM curtain.
Holden entered there mid sized SWB Zeta RWD chassis into a contest, and GM NA offerd this kappa-based RWD chassis.....Holden lost.

Now, this seems to go along the lines of insider news that GMI broke about 2 months ago that Pontiac was going to bring a sedan based off Kappa.
This Torana would be a great car for Pontiac's line up.
If the Camaro were to be made off this mild-kappa car, it will probably be made in Delaware.
It would be a nice "class trip" if all of us NJFBOA members took a little tour, or even we could be there during the opening!

This Torana car has now opened up many, and IMO new doors. Now that its here, there are now more questions then answers.

-If Pontiac gets this. what will happen to the G6?
-Could this replace the Saab 9-3 as a true RWD sedan?
-If thoes 2 are true, what will become of Epsilon, the chassis now used for both the 9-3 and G6 as well as the updated version coming in 4 yrs?
-If this is the Camaro..what is this Chevy coupe that is going to be built on Zeta?
-Will this bring a Firebird?
-Will this bring a smaller Caddy?
-Could this replace the CTS as more of a true 3 series compeditor?
-Could this give Caddy a good chassis to make a smaller sedan for Europe and China?
-How soon can this be brought to production?

There are some more questions, but it involves some insider knowlage.

Anyway, Its good to see that GM is serious about RWD performance.
GM now has Sigma, Zeta, Kappa, and now this, which at the present time has no true name.

News is that this chassis has been in development, and is now getting the fast track to production.

skorpion317 10-08-2004 12:09 AM

if they use that platform for the Camaro, it had better look different than that.

Dr. Gonzo 10-08-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skorpion317
if they use that platform for the Camaro, it had better look different than that.

:werd:

Squirrel 10-08-2004 02:42 PM

hello moto.......er.....mazda
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/1...5/031056-E.jpg
http://www.gminsidenews.com/Torana/T...oncept_005.jpg

EVIL90SS 10-08-2004 06:39 PM

wow...thats a hella gay f-in car...this one also sucks donkey dick

BigAls87Z28 10-09-2004 02:05 AM

ah...yeah...exact...err...they both have 4 wheels?


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