well i have a tripod...but its one of those stupid little tiny ones that come with the camera. thats why all the shots were from the deck. if i set the speed to automatic, it always comes out too dark....and yes i can adjust the aperature, i just never really had a chance to figure out what does what on it. thanks for hte tips, ill try them next time....i want to get the moon in the background next time too, if i can.
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