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			THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. 
 
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        Why didn't George W. think of this?  Gas rationing in the 80's  worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! 
 
        The Saudis are boycotting American goods.  
 
        We should return the favor.  
 
        An interesting thought it to boycott their GAS.  
 
        Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. 
 
        Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends.  
 
        I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas  from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil : 
 
        Shell............................. 205,742,000 barrels 
        Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels 
        Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels 
        Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels 
        Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels 
        If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! 
 
        Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: 
 
        Citgo.......................0 barrels 
        Sunoco...................0 barrels 
        Conoco...................0 barrels 
        Sinclair....................0 barrels 
        BP/Phillips..............0 barrels 
        Hess........................0 barrels         
        ARC0.......................0 barrels 
 
        All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. 
 
        But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas buyers.  
 
        It's really simple to do.  
 
        Now, don't wimp out at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! 
 
        I'm sending this note to about thirty people. 
 
        If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! 
 
        If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! 
 
        If it goes one level further, you guessed it ..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION 
        PEOPLE!!! 
        Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.  
 
        How long would all that take?  
 
        If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next eight days!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-28-2006, 09:36 AM
			
			
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			ITS ALL CRAP!!! JESUS ****ING CRIST! BY A BYCYCLE AND STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT ****ING GAS.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			here's a quick example why that's crap - BP and Amoco have been merged for yeeeears now
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i remember that circulating around my freshman year in college, it was around the end of 2001, beginning of 2002. Other than the snopes thing, its outdated.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Ugh. This is such BS. 
 
95% of the gas stations in this state gets gas from one of the few refineries that we have here. My dad's Mobil/Lukoil station gets almost all of it's gas from the Valero refinery. Most of the gas station brands in this country are owned by 3-5 major corporations. 
 
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			last i heard there were 3 main US gas distributors.  mobil/lukoil/exxon/etc... , BP/Amoco/etc... , and Hess/etc...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-28-2006, 03:32 PM
			
			
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				last i heard there were 3 main US gas distributors.  mobil/lukoil/exxon/etc... , BP/Amoco/etc... , and Hess/etc... 
			
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			06-28-2006, 03:34 PM
			
			
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 Lukoil owns part of the Mobil Brand, but they aren't bringing over their own gas....yet. That's their final plan, to ship over refined fuel from the motherland. Avoid US refineries all together.
 
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			If it were only that easy as not buying gas from certain stations...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Lukoil owns part of the Mobil Brand, but they aren't bringing over their own gas....yet. That's their final plan, to ship over refined fuel from the motherland. Avoid US refineries all together. 
 
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			there are lukoil only stations already here in NJ, but they dont accept mobil.exxon cards wtf lol  then there are also stations Mobil/exxon with signs saying "lukoil coming soon"
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Lukoil will pwn all. go motherland! i should get a special discount!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Lukoil owns *most* Mobil/Exxon stations in NJ and PA. They are switching over the brand names on most of the stations to Lukoil. 
 
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			yeah theres a **** load of them changing over now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				here's a quick example why that's crap - BP and Amoco have been merged for yeeeears now 
			
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				Lukoil owns *most* Mobil/Exxon stations in NJ and PA. They are switching over the brand names on most of the stations to Lukoil. 
 
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			Lukoil is a totally independant, publicly traded Russian company.  In terms of proven oil reserves, it is second only to Exxon/Mobil.  Lukoil acquired Getty to gain a toehold in the US market.  They have now purchased the Mobil stations on the east coast (which Exxon/Mobil had already sold to ConocoPhilips). 
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East Meadow, NY, May 21, 2004 …Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of OAO LUKOIL, announced its acquisition of 779 Mobil-branded gasoline stations in New Jersey and Pennsylvania from ConocoPhillips. According to the terms of this transaction, Getty Petroleum Marketing Inc. has acquired 308 Mobil branded fee and lease properties plus contracts to supply an additional 471 Mobil branded locations.  Collectively, these sites generate over 1.1 billion gallons of gasoline sales annually and will more than double the amount of Getty's current light product sales in the United States. 
    
Founded in 1991, LUKOIL is one of the world’s largest vertically integrated oil companies and currently ranks second in the world in terms of proven reserves. As a publicly traded company, LUKOIL is the most diversified Russian oil company and the first to have ventured abroad to make a significant commitment to the U.S. market. LUKOIL is Russia's number one petroleum refiner and with this acquisition, has more than 4,700 gasoline stations worldwide and over 2,000 outlets in the United States. It is publicly traded on numerous international stock exchanges and most recently was listed on the London Stock Exchange.
			
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			all this gas **** cracks me up. does anyone actually think that where the gas comes from has anything at all to do with price?  
all of the companies listed that don't use saudi oil charge the same at teh pump as those who do, all of the companies using ethanol that costs much less to refine are charging the same as those who don't.  
they know we have no choice but to buy gas. so they will continue to charge us as much as they can get away with. that is the simple truth of any of product on any shelf in any store you have ever visited. the only difference is that you can't get around buying gas the way you can spending money on designer jeans.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			i forgot to put one more little nugget of knowledge in my post, the companies that don't use arab oil, use south american oil. all of the south american companies and even the good ol' USA are members of OPEC, so all the oil comes out costing the same, no matter where you ship it in from.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			but there not saying itll lower price i dont think more so that just dont buy from arab oil companies buyers so were not suporting arabs our enimies, suport other companys, i dont wanna give my money to the enemy
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			but the point is, there arent just some companies that buy, basically everyones involved.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Yes, Conoco/Phillips and Exxon/Mobil are all part of the same company, but that list says that Conoco/Phillips uses no middle eastern oil, while Exxon/Mobil does. 
 
That takes me back to my previous statement, which is that not every Mobil station gets all of its gas from a Mobil refinery. My dad's Mobil/Lukoil station usually gets their gas from the Valero refinery. They all make deals with each other based on their location, not brand names. 
 
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