Another example of speed & youth gone wrong - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

chevyt454 · 04-21-2008, 09:04 AM

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/inde...580.xml&coll=3

qwikz28 · 04-21-2008, 09:08 AM

i don't even know what to say about that one.

Knipps · 04-21-2008, 09:45 AM

i knew a Figueroa (Brendan) before i moved.. I wonder if they're related
that's crazy..

Saitin · 04-21-2008, 11:13 AM

all I can say is....

IDIOTS

bubba428 · 04-21-2008, 11:28 AM

holy crap.....maybe ricer wings do work?????

Sucks those kids died but at least the ones that were in the back are ok.

maroman88 · 04-21-2008, 11:54 AM

i saw this on the news the other night, that car was messed up

firehawk1120 · 04-21-2008, 09:01 PM

one way to clean out a bad gene pool...

jims69camaro · 04-21-2008, 09:31 PM

i was having a discussion the other day about inner city youth. it got started with the statement that common sense isn't so common these days. we wound up all over the place, but to keep it simple for here, it comes down to kids aren't being taught properly by their parents. why were they doing in excess of 100 mph on the Skyway, of all places?

probably because no one told them it was a bad idea.

think about that for a minute...

maroman88 · 04-21-2008, 09:43 PM

parents jusr plop their kids infront of a TV and tell them to watch while they do other things, now throw in video games! the kids never have human contact like going outside and riding a bike, now throw in racing games.... theres your 100mph on the skyway

Knipps · 04-21-2008, 09:47 PM

Why should parents have to tell their kids it's not smart to do 100 mph?
IMO that's just dumb. if you need to be told that there's more wrong with you

91DropTop · 04-21-2008, 09:48 PM

that explains why there were 200 kids on my block last night having a service in the park across the street 2 of the kids lived around the corner from me, its a shame but anyone who has been on the skyway knows its not smooth enough to do 60 on forget about 100, esp where it connects to raymond blvd

1_Hot_SOM_WS6 · 04-21-2008, 10:01 PM

Sad....hopefully the kids in the back learn a life lesson out of this. Its sad that the kids in front had to go like they did.

bubba428 · 04-21-2008, 10:07 PM

Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

98tadriver · 04-21-2008, 10:51 PM

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Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

jims69camaro · 04-22-2008, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Knipps

Why should parents have to tell their kids it's not smart to do 100 mph?
IMO that's just dumb. if you need to be told that there's more wrong with you

exactly my point. they don't have the frame of reference to know that 100 mph on the Skyway is a bad thing. there is so much wrong with these kids, and it all goes right back to the parents not having taught them properly from the beginning. like it was said, the TV-babysitter and then throw in video games and then these kids get their licenses and start hot rodding their cars. they think there is nothing wrong with 100 mph on the Skyway.

i'm just glad they didn't take out any innocents with them. also said in this thread, though quite harsh, what a way to clean out the gene pool...

since the problem is way larger than just this one accident, we don't know what these kids could've been with the proper guidance and guidelines. who knows, they could have contributed something to the world other than a headline that read "2 dead in Skyway accident".

NumberTwo · 04-22-2008, 10:51 AM

Hopefully the parents are held liable.

Savage_Messiah · 04-22-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bubba428

Its amazing how many people stupidity can kill

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Originally Posted by 98tadriver

youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

WildBillyT · 04-22-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberTwo

Hopefully the parents are held liable.

I'm curious.

Why?

madness410 · 04-22-2008, 04:06 PM

that is very unfortunate that there were lives lost...but as the jigsaw killer from saw always says: "the choices are always theres..."

NumberTwo · 04-22-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WildBillyT

I'm curious.

Why?

The driver of the vehicle was 17. He is still a minor. He was also in violation of the NJ provisional license he had. I could be wrong, but the 08 Solara probably wasnt purchased by him unless he paid for it cash being a minor cant sign a legal binding contract alone. The driver was also operating the car at 2AM or so. I dont know about you but when I have kids, until theyre 18 they will have rules and a curfew. Parents know what the provisional license restrictions are and are therefor liable. The situation sucks all around but whats done is done.

Knipps · 04-22-2008, 04:50 PM

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The driver of the vehicle was 17. He is still a minor. He was also in violation of the NJ provisional license he had. I could be wrong, but the 08 Solara probably wasnt purchased by him unless he paid for it cash being a minor cant sign a legal binding contract alone. The driver was also operating the car at 2AM or so. I dont know about you but when I have kids, until theyre 18 they will have rules and a curfew. Parents know what the provisional license restrictions are and are therefor liable. The situation sucks all around but whats done is done.

so the parents are held responsible for the child's free will?
you can give a kid a curfew all you want, but all it takes is one time and unless you're there with them you can't force them to be home at 12am on the dot
meanwhile, who said the kid had the car with permission?

bubba428 · 04-22-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 98tadriver

youre leaving yourself open to an attackkkkkk!!! lol

I'm not dead yet!!!!

NumberTwo · 04-22-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Knipps

so the parents are held responsible for the child's free will?
you can give a kid a curfew all you want, but all it takes is one time and unless you're there with them you can't force them to be home at 12am on the dot
meanwhile, who said the kid had the car with permission?

Uhh, yeah. The parents are legally held liable for their childs actions hence why they are children. If youre a ****** parent you cant force them but that is another matter. This again goes back to the parents not keeping tabs on their underage child which again, they are legally responsible for. It all boils down to bad parenting.

Knipps · 04-22-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberTwo

Uhh, yeah. The parents are legally held liable for their childs actions hence why they are children. If youre a ****** parent you cant force them but that is another matter. This again goes back to the parents not keeping tabs on their underage child which again, they are legally responsible for. It all boils down to bad parenting.

At 17 if someone commits murder they're not going to charge the parents but are 10x more likely to charge that 17 year old as an adult.

NumberTwo · 04-22-2008, 05:41 PM

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At 17 if someone commits murder they're not going to charge the parents but are 10x more likely to charge that 17 year old as an adult.

In that instance yes the child maybe charged as an adult, but the parents will have to deal with a civil suit as well. Weather or not, or what statue a child will be charged has no bearing on the fact that unless the child is emancipated the parents are still LEGALLY responbible for them.