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03-01-2010, 12:41 PM
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The lost art
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03-01-2010, 12:45 PM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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'Tis very sad but nothing new. I love driving stick. I've driven 13,000 lb Internationals in traffic and didn't mind it one bit.
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03-01-2010, 02:06 PM
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Location: North Jersey = Best Jersey.
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It's really a shame. I feel that most "fun-to-drive" cars, including our fbodies, should have been exclusively offered in only Standard--with a small percentage of automatics. But, when it comes down to it, buyer demand is what drives manufacturers' decisions. The majority of people just don't care for it anymore.
When I was looking for a LS1, the price difference between equal mileage 4L60E & T56 cars were in the thousands, making a T56 unattainable with my budget.
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03-01-2010, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: south & north nj
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i hate having auto in my car
i love the 5speed in the trans am
i will drive manuals after my current car for the rest of my life
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04 GTO - less slower summer dd
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03-01-2010, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: East Brunswick
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Same here. I love the 6 speed in my T/A. I'm driving my parents' cars right now since I'm in the middle of a motor swap and I absolutely can't stand auto. Every car i buy will be manual.
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03-01-2010, 03:11 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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it depends on the car. i prefer my fun cars to be manual and my daily drivers to be auto.
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03-01-2010, 03:17 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
Join Date: May 2008
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Real cars have manual valve bodies.
Clutches are ftl.
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03-01-2010, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arm pit of the world... NJ
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Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Clutches are ftl.
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People that can't drive a clutch are ftl.
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03-01-2010, 04:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Haddon Twp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
People that can't drive a clutch are ftl.
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 I still when driving a auto reach for the clutch and my heart stops for a second until I realize its not my car im driving lol ....
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03-01-2010, 04:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Delran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Featherburner
People that can't drive a clutch are ftl.
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he has to learn auto first 
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03-01-2010, 06:10 PM
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Mr Fantastic
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: West Milford NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Real cars have manual valve bodies.
Clutches are ftl.
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automatic transmissions have clutches in them
if my integra was automatic i would hate driving it, its almost as fun as my mustang
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B18B1 FTW
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03-01-2010, 06:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Shamong, NJ
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Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon
it depends on the car. i prefer my fun cars to be manual and my daily drivers to be auto.
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+1, but if i did have a daily driver Fbod i would get a manual without a doubt.
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2010 F-150
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03-01-2010, 06:30 PM
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9 Second Club
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Location: Merchantville
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I wouldn't trade my manual 6spd for anything. To me, its one of the appealing features of the car! I had in auto Z before this car and its like night and day. My A4 Z was no where near as fun to drive on a daily basis as my M6 SS!
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03-01-2010, 06:40 PM
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12 Second Club
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I actually feel safer in a Manual for some reason.Maybe cause i feel like im driving the car instead of the car driving me
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03-01-2010, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Yet there are some people who would say that the current paddle shifters on the steering wheel are the way to go. When I was selling 67-69 GTO's, one of the coolest ways to shift an automatic was with the Hurst Dual-Gate set-up. You could manually shift and slam the lever just like a stick, grab a chirp from 1st to 2nd  and downshift also. It gives you the best of both worlds, just consider being stuck on the Parkway in the summer with a stick, not too much fun. Just my 
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1994 25th ANNIVERSARY TRANS AM GT -1 of ONLY 2,000 made/ Only 128 made with a HURST 6-Speed Manual and 91 with T-Tops and Compact Disc/ K & N Filtercharger/Magnaflow Performance Muffler/Air Foil- ORIGINAL MINT Arctic White Ultra Rare SURVIVOR. DAYTONA 500 PACE CAR Decal Kit!
SOLD: 1989 Turbo T/A in 1991 it ran 12:18@115 mph
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03-01-2010, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Oldbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edpontiac91
Yet there are some people who would say that the current paddle shifters on the steering wheel are the way to go. When I was selling 67-69 GTO's, one of the coolest ways to shift an automatic was with the Hurst set-up. You could manually shift and slam the lever just like a stick, grab a chirp from 1st to 2nd and downshift also. It gives you the best of both worlds, just consider being stuck on the Parkway in the summer with a stick, not too much fun. Just my |
its not fun.. go down the shore on any summer day after 8am and you will feel the pain...
but its the ONLY downdside for me.... still making it a landslide victory ... i have both and the m6 is not my dd maybe that why tool... but i do the clutch thing sometimes too in my e30 and get confused esp when i go right from one car to the other..
like when i play tetris in my drive way to put the cars in the right spots. lol
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2001 Camaro SS M6 LMII w/ LID (currently DD)
1987 Camaro IROC-Z 5.7 TPI RIP
1991 BMW 325i RIP
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03-01-2010, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: milltown
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manual is the way to go, my camaro is a stick and every car after that will be to. its funny when i drive my moms hummer i always and reaching for the clutch and trying to downshift the center console, lol
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daily econobox and first car
1986 IROC-Z, T56, MGW shifter, Heads, Cam, Holley Stealth Ram 350, t-top, tubular LCA with relo brackets, adjustable PHB, belltech sway bars, ground control weight jacks, SLP mid length headers, 3in w/borla XR1, RIP 3 10 bolts, 12.7 @ 109 so far.. atleast its faster than stock  SOLD
1971 Camaro LS3/T56/9in, cam only and still carbed, RIP 2 10 bolts, 11.62@121
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03-01-2010, 10:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Hillside NJ
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going to Connecticut at 8am and 30-2 hours in traffic with a 5 speed ugh
going down to Florida with a 5 speed hell YA 
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03-01-2010, 10:28 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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it will be a long time before i own an automatic again. manuals are just too much fun. even my cherokee is a 5spd and that thing hauls compared to the auto version.
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1986 IROC-Z - 305- .030 over, Voodoo cam, 113 vette heads, tpi, hedman torque steps, GMMG 3in catback, custom chip, t56, 3.27s 9 bolt, rest of the car is stock.
2011 Camaro - 2lt/rs red jewel tincoat, m6 - SOLD
2014 Camaro SS - bolt ons
1998 Jimmy - the beater
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03-02-2010, 04:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Marlton
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My truck is auto and I'm missing the six speed big time. In fact, I'm missing having a car big time. Trucks are nice, but their slow, big, and a pain in the ass to park. I actually enjoy driving my girlfriends 2000 5 speed v6 eclipse because it's as close as I can get right now to the Trans am.
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03-02-2010, 04:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NJ
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Automatics are better than they have ever been. I prefer the consistency of an Automatic. Also I think its much easier to service an auto trans car than a Manual. Manual transmissions still have their place though.
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03-02-2010, 05:39 PM
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12 Second Club
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Location: West Milford
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never had a stick... and i have no desire to get one... maybe after i can actually dedicate a car to strickly fun use... my TA is an auto, with the gears and a tune it chirps 2nd, and if in the mood i can pretend its a stick... same goes for the vette, it just needs a tune badly
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03-02-2010, 05:42 PM
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MIR
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Originally Posted by maroman88
never had a stick... and i have no desire to get one... maybe after i can actually dedicate a car to strickly fun use... my TA is an auto, with the gears and a tune it chirps 2nd, and if in the mood i can pretend its a stick... same goes for the vette, it just needs a tune badly
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Honda accord can chirp second, with no mods. What's your point? 
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03-02-2010, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NJ
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with an automatic?
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03-02-2010, 06:00 PM
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MIR
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 91chevywt
with an automatic?
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with ****** tires, sure.
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