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07-19-2010, 10:44 AM
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The Mayor / 2009 Member of the Year / Moderator
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G8 GT Tails illegal in MD?
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Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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07-19-2010, 10:53 AM
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if you read the comments it seems his taillights are pretty far from stock...
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It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-19-2010, 10:55 AM
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07-19-2010, 10:57 AM
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read the comments. they were modified tail lights, not bone stock
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07-19-2010, 11:04 AM
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Check out the pic. They are completely blacked out!
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07-19-2010, 11:09 AM
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Yea the comments really clear things up.
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07-19-2010, 11:54 AM
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Somebody changed the story a lot.
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07-19-2010, 12:27 PM
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Right, but how'd he get all this "evidence" saying they were stock....that BS as well? I had higher hopes in jalopnik.
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Is English your 2nd language? Did you graduate high school? Your posts make my head hurt.
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07-19-2010, 12:39 PM
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pictures of when the car was stock, a quick swap, etc...
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-19-2010, 02:28 PM
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he didnt have the tinted tails on when he got the ticket
they were all stock except the chrome ring was painted black
so yes, they werent 100% oem, but they were close and the judge said she didnt even care if they were oem, they were illegal in her state 
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07-20-2010, 12:00 AM
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The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.
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07-20-2010, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.
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its not regardless of what he had on the car, the judge wouldnt even know what a g8 is if he didnt go in there fighting his ass off to get his modified light ticket knocked down...
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-20-2010, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28
The story was posted on GMI, and it seems that the guy brought in examples of the Pontiac brochure, and the judge said that the OE tails were illegal, reguardless of what he had on his car.
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thats b/s...how can lights approved by DOT be illegal?
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07-20-2010, 08:46 AM
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thats b/s...how can lights approved by DOT be illegal?
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They can be illegal because local governments can create their own local laws on top of federal ones.
Ridiculous, yes, in some cases. Such as IF this is true about the taillights, or the "wacky laws" seen here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473971,00.html
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07-20-2010, 10:12 AM
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but if you fought it to supreme court, federal law > municipal law
like when feds and dea bust pot smokers in cali 
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07-20-2010, 10:56 AM
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Federal law always trumps state law, end of story. While his tail lights might or might not be legal, others with stock tail lights could fight this to federal court in which it would be thrown out as soon as they show the DOT badge on the tail lights.
Think of how many cars also have tail lights in similar fasion to the G8? Altima, Prius, Hyrbid Camry, Merc Mountainer, and a host of few other cars.
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07-20-2010, 11:17 AM
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no, federal law is the minimum standard that a state can meet, if a state wants to be stricter than the feds, that is accepted practice.
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts.
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07-20-2010, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cbrrmike
no, federal law is the minimum standard that a state can meet, if a state wants to be stricter than the feds, that is accepted practice.
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Yup. This was my point above- laws on top of federal. The pecking order is
Federal
State
County
Township
etc.
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07-20-2010, 01:44 PM
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so then why is federal court the highest court of law?
also, how come people with lexus suv's like the rx and crap don't get stopped daily?
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07-20-2010, 01:56 PM
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so then why is federal court the highest court of law?
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What else would there be? "Earth" doesn't have a set of laws, other than gravity and maybe a few others. Federal court is there to protect federal laws.
Again- lower levels of government can have stricter laws on top of federal ones, but they can't be more lenient.
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07-20-2010, 02:11 PM
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What else would there be? "Earth" doesn't have a set of laws, other than gravity and maybe a few others. Federal court is there to protect federal laws.
Again- lower levels of government can have stricter laws on top of federal ones, but they can't be more lenient.
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What about states that do not test emissions? Isn't that more lenient that the federal clean air act?
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07-20-2010, 03:26 PM
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What about states that do not test emissions? Isn't that more lenient that the federal clean air act?
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No. That is a technicality. People who live in those states still live in the United States so they are required to abide by federal laws like the clean air act. Which is why removing a cat for anything other than replacement is technically illegal.
States that do not test are not saying it's OK, they are just leaving enforcement up to the feds.
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07-20-2010, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LTs1ow
Well, if you wanna get into this whole state vs feds... why is it that the Federal govt is suing the state of AZ over a more strict approach to a federal law?
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I do not know enough about the issue to really comment. Gun to my head I'd guess that it violates some sort of federal legislation.
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07-20-2010, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
No. That is a technicality. People who live in those states still live in the United States so they are required to abide by federal laws like the clean air act. Which is why removing a cat for anything other than replacement is technically illegal.
States that do not test are not saying it's OK, they are just leaving enforcement up to the feds.
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Exactly. Removing your catalytic converter is still violates federal law.
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07-20-2010, 04:42 PM
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WBT, you are too quick.
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