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01-31-2005, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Near Menlo Park New Jersey
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Muffler Noise Regulation
Below is a 'Legislative Alert' sent to me by 'S.E.M.A.' (Specialty Equipment Market Association), regarding a Bill proposed by one of our New Jersey Legislators. PLEASE, take a few minutes of your time to E-Mail your Assemblypeople, and ask them to oppose this ill-conceived bit of Legislation, and instead to support 'S.EM.A.'s' proposal.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Tolleson
To: Jason Tolleson
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:56 PM
Subject: Legislation to Establish Exhaust Noise Limit Introduced in New Jersey; to be Considered by Assembly Committee
URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT
Legislation to Establish Exhaust Noise Limit Introduced in New Jersey; to be Considered by Assembly Committee
Legislation (A.B. 3738) that would require the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to prescribe a decibel limit to which all aftermarket mufflers sold in the state would have to be certified to operate has been introduced in the New Jersey State Legislature. The bill, introduced By Assemblyman Robert Gordon, gives no instruction as to what the decibel limit should be.
In some states, noise limits for modified exhaust systems are established by a SEMA model bill (attached) and applicable to an easy to administer test standard. The SEMA model provides for the testing of vehicle exhaust noise to a standard adopted by the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) with an established noise limit of 95-decibels (SAE J1169). Under the SAE standard, a sound meter is placed 20 inches from the exhaust outlet at a 45-degree angle and the engine is revved to three quarters of maximum rated horsepower. The highest decibel reading is then recorded.
To date, with the popular support of vehicle enthusiasts and related businesses, the model has been enacted in California, Washington State and Maine. This year, the SEMA model was introduced in Virginia.
Contact members of the New Jersey Assembly Environment and Solid Waste Committee (List to Follow) to request their support for a 95-decibel limit under SAE J1169
The SEMA model removes subjective provisions in the law and force compliance with an objectively measured standard. Under the standard, exhaust noise could not exceed a sound reading of 95-decibels under a fair and predictable test.
The SEMA model would benefit consumers, the aftermarket industry and police officers who are charged with enforcing the law.
The SEMA model would remedy the enforcement policy currently used by police officers in which nearly all exhaust system modifications are considered illegal, even where noise levels are not excessive or unusual. This policy leaves enthusiasts, exhaust system manufacturers and dealers without recourse, despite having the law on their side.
The SEMA model recognizes that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.
The SEMA model removes authority for the calculation of a decibel limit from state regulators and puts it back in the hands of your elected representatives.
DON’T DELAY! Please contact Assemblyman Gordon and members of the New Jersey Assembly Environment and Solid Waste Committee immediately by phone at (609) 292-5135 or e-mail to request their support of the 95-decibel limit under SAE J1169.
NJ Assembly Environment and Solid Waste Committee
John F. McKeon
Email: asmmckeon@njleg.org
Michael J. Panter (District 12 - Colts Neck Township)
Email: Legislative Contact Service
Larry Chatzidakis
Email: AsmChatzidakis@njleg.org
Robert M. Gordon (District 38 - Cliffside Park Borough)
Email: Legislative Contact Service
Reed Gusciora
Email: reednj15@aol.com
Louis Manzo (District 31 - Bayonne City)
Email: Legislative Contact Service
John E. Rooney
Email: AsmRooney@njleg.org Done in bold so it's easier to read
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02-01-2005, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: browns mills
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damn people that are jelouse that some people have the money to make their car sound good and dont like it
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02-01-2005, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Turnersville/Washington Twp
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the only loud exhausts i ever hear are those rediculous ones from imports, i rarely hear a domestic V8 that is as annoying
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02-01-2005, 10:27 PM
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Fidget Lover
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: P-town, New Jersey
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damn those ricer bastards!!! DAMN THEM!!!!
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02-02-2005, 08:35 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Near Menlo Park New Jersey
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Um folks, these Jebronees in Trenton don't give a good blankin damn about what you drive, but they love it when we fight amongst ourselves. This latest attack on ALL vehicle owners, is just another in the ongoing assualt on us. What we do need here, is to E-Mail these darlins in Trenton, and tell them what S.E.M.A. has said to tell them. What we don't need, is to fight amongst ourselves
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02-02-2005, 09:12 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: West Long Branch
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WTF? Colts Neck? Bunch of rich, up tight WASP's cant take a little noise?
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02-02-2005, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Near Menlo Park New Jersey
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All I can say, is what I already said.
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02-02-2005, 10:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Turnersville/Washington Twp
Posts: 150
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Originally Posted by bencar
Um folks, these Jebronees in Trenton don't give a good blankin damn about what you drive, but they love it when we fight amongst ourselves. This latest attack on ALL vehicle owners, is just another in the ongoing assualt on us. What we do need here, is to E-Mail these darlins in Trenton, and tell them what S.E.M.A. has said to tell them. What we don't need, is to fight amongst ourselves 
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I wasnt starting a fight amongst ourselves (car enthusiasts), just pointing the finger at those who i think give way more noise pollution than a car like mine. All's i'm sayin is that it sucks!
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- Fran
Black 97 Z/28 M6
CMotorsports 383 LT1, Jet hot LTs, mufflex 4\", spec3 clutch, 233/239 112, bla, bla, bla...
Stock suspension and rear for now.
Daily driver- '04 Sub Forrester 2.5XT
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02-02-2005, 10:15 PM
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10 Second Club
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Eastampton
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That BLOWS. Thank god I have the T/A registered back home in IL finally.
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02-02-2005, 11:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Brick, NJ
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hello electric exhaust cut out....do you like me now? lol those ****s....open the cutout in there damn ear..lol put a low rpm pill in and tell them the car tops out at 5 so 3/4 would be like 3850? which isn't very loud....but wtf headers and exhaust would be impossible...they really suck at life...
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02-03-2005, 08:30 AM
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Hippy Mod, Bergermeister Meisterberger, Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ewing
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I want to know why they're going after cars when those dam Harley's all have open exhaust and make a ton of noise. Give me a break. You can hear the Harleys coming a mile away!
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02-03-2005, 12:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Blackwood
Posts: 473
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LT!freak94
damn people that are jelouse that some people have the money to make their car sound good and dont like it
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It's more like some douche bag with a two-incher cuts his cat and muffler, even installs cut-outs and drives on open streets with it. He might thing he is impressing people but all he is doing is scarring kids. It's not jealousy. Good exhaust systems are not necessarily loud. Most of the exhaust systems I hear which make we want to turn down my stereo and open my windows are not "loud".
People with "loud" exhausts are no better than r*cers with bright orange paint -- they're just asking for attention.
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02-03-2005, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Hillsborough, NJ
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People with "loud" exhausts are no better than r*cers with bright orange paint -- they're just asking for attention.
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Everytime I hear a ricer, I think of the smell of freshly cut grass. Am I the only one who thinks they sound like loud lawn mowers?
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02-03-2005, 02:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Turnersville/Washington Twp
Posts: 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JL8Jeff
I want to know why they're going after cars when those dam Harley's all have open exhaust and make a ton of noise. Â*Give me a break. Â*You can hear the Harleys coming a mile away!
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Thats a very good point, when the windows of my house are open during the spring time its a least a mile's distence from when you begin to hear them approach
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- Fran
Black 97 Z/28 M6
CMotorsports 383 LT1, Jet hot LTs, mufflex 4\", spec3 clutch, 233/239 112, bla, bla, bla...
Stock suspension and rear for now.
Daily driver- '04 Sub Forrester 2.5XT
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02-08-2005, 03:37 PM
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13 Second Club
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Netcong, NJ
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Re: Muffler Noise Regulation
Quote:
Originally Posted by bencar
Legislation (A.B. 3738) that would require the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to prescribe a decibel limit to which all aftermarket mufflers sold in the state would have to be certified to operate has been introduced in the New Jersey State Legislature.
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Straight-pipe them f**kers
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