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bitchincamaro · 12-15-2005, 07:29 PM

this looks like a lot of fun.
http://www.hugi.is/hahradi/bigboxes....1208&f_id=1487

12secondv6 · 12-15-2005, 07:42 PM

Gonna save that when I'm home!

Looks pretty damn bad @ss!

WayFast84 · 12-15-2005, 07:43 PM

wow!

Tsar · 12-15-2005, 07:50 PM

damn! that takes some balls!

i wanna see one of NASFART guys do it, i bet 50 bucks he'll crash in the first right turn...

SteveR · 12-15-2005, 07:57 PM

Wow! There's doesn't appear to ba any room for error with all those cliffs.

camaro2you · 12-15-2005, 09:00 PM

damn!!! looks like fun unno bout doin it on cliffs though.

bitchincamaro · 12-15-2005, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsar

damn! that takes some balls!

i wanna see one of NASFART guys do it, i bet 50 bucks he'll crash in the first right turn...

actually the majority of nascar guys have years of racing experiance and actually race on a few road race tracks. i know watkins glenn and one in mexico are two of them. i'll take that bet. i really dont like nascar, bit long for me but i give credit where credit is due those guys can drive and have dominated other classes to move up to nascar.

Tsar · 12-15-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bitchincamaro

actually the majority of nascar guys have years of racing experiance and actually race on a few road race tracks. i know watkins glenn and one in mexico are two of them. i'll take that bet. i really dont like nascar, bit long for me but i give credit where credit is due those guys can drive and have dominated other classes to move up to nascar.

alright now we just gotta find one who's gonna take the challenge. You'll see all of them are gonna be scared.

bitchincamaro · 12-15-2005, 09:35 PM

i'll offer the driver half my winnings to do it.

Tsar · 12-15-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bitchincamaro

i'll offer the driver half my winnings to do it.

i dont think it will cover his medical bills after the crash

NJSPEEDER · 12-15-2005, 10:13 PM

nascar drivers have plenty of seat time. 99% of it is making lefts only though. i wouldn't trust one of them to take me on a ride up a hill like that without sending them to school first.
i am not saying that nascar drivers are completely devoid of talent, just that road racing is a very very different discipline. nascar drivers on the road courses looks like ameteur hour compared to those who actually train to drive that way. going from road racing to oval is much easier than the other way around.
can anyone ID that car? it looks like the nose of an audi prototype to me. that is one sick ride

Tsar · 12-15-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

nascar drivers have plenty of seat time. 99% of it is making lefts only though. i wouldn't trust one of them to take me on a ride up a hill like that without sending them to school first.
i am not saying that nascar drivers are completely devoid of talent, just that road racing is a very very different discipline. nascar drivers on the road courses looks like ameteur hour compared to those who actually train to drive that way. going from road racing to oval is much easier than the other way around.
can anyone ID that car? it looks like the nose of an audi prototype to me. that is one sick ride

i wasnt saying that they werent good, they're are good at driving in a circle. Probably one of the best. So i agree with what u said

bitchincamaro · 12-16-2005, 01:56 AM

i agree the majority of nascar drivers skill level cant compare with the majority of rally/road race drivers. some nascar guys do stand out though and are recognized for more then oval track racing.

kamikaz · 12-16-2005, 04:17 AM

Now that was Cool..

Later,

Santos

Tsar · 12-16-2005, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bitchincamaro

i agree the majority of nascar drivers skill level cant compare with the majority of rally/road race drivers. some nascar guys do stand out though and are recognized for more then oval track racing.

not to be a dick but how do they stand about? and what are thet recignized for? if they were so good i would think they'd go to formula 1 or something.

NJSPEEDER · 12-16-2005, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsar

not to be a dick but how do they stand about? and what are thet recignized for? if they were so good i would think they'd go to formula 1 or something.

you can see that they have skill when it comes to seperate events or the occasional press event.
about 2 years ago jeff gordon had a chance to drive the williams F1 car around the road course at indy. with in 3 sessions he was dropping times good enough to have made teh field, i think it was his 5th session that he drop a few laps that would have been in the top 10 of the previous years field. that is some damn quick adaptation to an unknown car that acts completely difference than a nascar tank.
also we have all the guys that hit up the daytona 24hour race each year. although daytona is not considered a challenging track in itself, the constantly changing conditions of driving through teh night and very unique manners of the cars have shown that people like kyle petty, dale jr., tony stewart, and robbie gordon all have the skills to adapt to very different circumstances quickly. a few years ago tony stewart actually held fastest lap of the weekend at daytona for about 7hours, and he dropped that lap at night.
the other credit that nascar/oval track drivers get is from thing like when colon mcrae took a stab at a european oval event. he drove well, qualified in the top 15 the second day he was ever in the car, late in teh race tagged teh wall and finish around 20th. he was all about giving those guys credit cause they "have it on the edge the whole time". when competing in rally or major road course racing there are moments where you have to cruise basically, oval racing is too competitive to get away with that.
the skill to control a car on the edge is there in any of the top forms of racing, it is a matter of being able to adapt/define the skills required for a particular discipline. i can tell you from the days i used to autocross all teh time, jumping into an unfamiliar car with only a few words of advice from the owner and being expected to go fast can be very tough. some cars have huge attitude problems, some cars can pull themselves out fo trouble with pure power, some cars need smooth and momentum, and some cars you have to force to rotate. the best guys can figure all that out in a lap or two, it is amazing to watch.

slasherbarb · 12-16-2005, 05:11 PM

jeff gordon and tony stewart might do well in one of those cars...i mean, before nascar stewart was a very successful indy car driver...they both are awesome on road courses...and i remember gordon's williams sessions(being an F1 and jeff gordon fan)...the F1 guys were complimenting him highly...but i still say

Alex Zanardi>all...with or without legs

NJSPEEDER · 12-16-2005, 05:52 PM

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Alex Zanardi>all...with or without legs

i woudl take michael schumacher as the best current driver in F1.
best rally driver is prolly mcrae.
best off roader prolly still ivan stewart
best sprint car driver on asphalt is a toss up between stewart and gordon
best attitude of any driver is prolly kenny schrader, that m'fer will drive anything, anywhere, anytime and do it well.
best dirt driver is prolly billy pauch, he is a damn animal behind the wheel
best driver ever is too big a can of worms to get into.

slasherbarb · 12-16-2005, 06:21 PM

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i woudl take michael schumacher as the best current driver in F1.

agree 100%...havent watched the other types of racing enough to know who is who really...but i agree with kenny schrader too..he is nuts!!

79dizZy28 · 12-16-2005, 06:58 PM

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...but i still say

Alex Zanardi>all...with or without legs

Tsar · 12-16-2005, 07:13 PM

I've been a fan ever since i saw him race for Benetton, so Schumacher > all. When someone gets more F1 championships then get back to me.

jims69camaro · 12-19-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

i woudl take michael schumacher as the best current driver in F1.
best rally driver is prolly mcrae.
best off roader prolly still ivan stewart
best sprint car driver on asphalt is a toss up between stewart and gordon
best attitude of any driver is prolly kenny schrader, that m'fer will drive anything, anywhere, anytime and do it well.
best dirt driver is prolly billy pauch, he is a damn animal behind the wheel
best driver ever is Parnelli Jones.

fixed.

you cannot argue with that. he dominated every type of racing he got involved with. there are no drivers alive or dead that accomplished as much as he has, in all the different forms he has.

WayFast84 · 12-19-2005, 03:20 PM

I like nascar I want to be a driver some day I know it will never happen but I can dream cant I?