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		|  02-14-2006, 07:38 AM | #1 |  
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				help  me decide *heads and cam* inside, ASAP
			 
 
			
			this is  a copy of a sale thread on ls1tech, i have dibs if i want the parts, alla i would need is stock length pushrods and rocker arms  he will do 1600 shipped on the combo....let me know what ya think 
MTI Stage 2E Heads- Heads feature 2.02"in. valve and 1.57"ex. valve. Heads have been upgraded to a Comp Cams 978 dual valve springs. These are "241" castings. These heads have not been milled to increase compression and retain the factory 67cc combustion chambers. These heads will support a LARGE cam.
 
These heads have been assembled with new guides and seals. They have been checked and cleaned by "AES" Automotive Engine Specialists in Elk Grove, IL. I have receipts for the work. Ready to be bolted on and GUARENTEED no problems. $1500
 
Here is a link to MTI for more info on the heads:
http://www.motorsporttech.com/fbody_engine01.asp 
MTI C1 Hammer Cam- 222/222 .566/.566 112 lsa 1k miles on this cam. $200
 
With these heads and cam have put an all motor full weight stock shortblock 6-Speed LS1 F-Body to a best of 11.02@122 w/1.50 60ft. 
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		|  02-14-2006, 07:43 AM | #2 |  
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			id say try those new prc dart heads & a high 220's duration cam on a 112 or 114 and be in the 450 rwhp range & be done with it for basically the same price.
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			Yea, I dunno much about LS1 heads, but that seems like a pretty small cam to me...
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			seems like a small cam... heads seem pretty nice though but from what i've heard the new darts are the way to go
		 
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				 Yea, I dunno much about LS1 heads, but that seems like a pretty small cam to me...
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 |  right?  he says it can take a BIG cam, but he includes a relatively small cam with the sale.       
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		|  02-14-2006, 04:06 PM | #7 |  
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			Dart ls1 heads are like $850 and flow as well or better then any ported stock ls1 head but have generally a 5-10% smaller intake port which will keep velocity up=more tq for the same cfm flowed.  They come with single springs but duals can be had for $200-250 if you want the added protection...go with a cam in the high 220's duration and 600ish lift on a 112-113lsa and you'll make more power, have a better tq curve & be just as driveable or better then that setup.
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		|  02-14-2006, 11:13 PM | #8 |  
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			you ever look at that mamo combo by tony mamo over at AFR? they are making 470-480 rwhp on a relaively mediumly aggressive cam.
		 
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			go with the prc darts... i did i will let u know how they work in about a week   
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			We plan on having a car ready with PRC Dart heads and our V.2 cam next week.
		 
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				 We plan on having a car ready with PRC Dart heads and our V.2 cam next week. |  I've gotten conflicting info on how much stock darts cost...i read somewhere they were $850 for both and somewhere they are $850 each...can you confirm which is right?  I think the prc's are like $1500 total but they are darts that prc ported so I wasnt sure whats what.
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				 I've gotten conflicting info on how much stock darts cost...i read somewhere they were $850 for both and somewhere they are $850 each...can you confirm which is right?  I think the prc's are like $1500 total but they are darts that prc ported so I wasnt sure whats what. |   def. $850 for both
		 
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			Summit sells the bare Dart heads for $951.90 a pair and $1619.90 assembled.
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			Fully assembled CNCed PRC Dart go for $900 a pair.  Add in $250 for the PRC dual spring kit and up to $400 for new valves (2.04/1.575).  Now you are at $1550.
		 
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