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11-19-2006, 04:53 PM
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MAF readings = GOOD!
After i put the motor back together, I couldn't figure out why the SES light was still on after the tune. Well, I found the hidden power in my car ....
It seems the car runs better with the MAF wire plugged into the MAF instead of the AIR pump power wire plugged into the MAF. Timmay and others seem to be laughing at me so heres a pic to see how i coul dhave gotten confused....
Off to the track tuesday weather permitting
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11-19-2006, 04:55 PM
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 slick
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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11-19-2006, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
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so i ran a 13.5 @ 105 with no MAF readings .... HAHAHA
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-19-2006, 05:00 PM
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that IS slick haha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LTb1ow
Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache.
Same result cept this headache doesnt last months.
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11-19-2006, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah
that IS slick haha
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well, why the hell would they make them the same damn color, same three prong style, comming out of the same damn area.
So, during cold startups, the PCM was trying to send 12 volts into the MAF thinking its a AIR pump. Stupidy computer, doesn't it know the difference???
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-19-2006, 05:21 PM
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gotta love gm lol.
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11-19-2006, 06:24 PM
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12s baby! now just get the 46 degrees of timing retard fixed and youll be set!
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12's on moda? One day
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11-19-2006, 06:28 PM
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Keyboard Tough Guy
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who needs a maf anyway?
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11-19-2006, 06:51 PM
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There is no timing retard. The only thing retarded is the scanner he bought, which reads in negative when the number should be positive . I dont think any motor on gods green earth would run of -46* of timing.
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Last edited by Rob WS6; 11-19-2006 at 06:51 PM.
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11-19-2006, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob WS6
There is no timing retard. The only thing retarded is the scanner he bought, which reads in negative when the number should be positive . I dont think any motor on gods green earth would run of -46* of timing. |
unless its gods motor itself
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2001 Trans Am WS6 •SLP Loudmouth II •UMI Suspension •12.857 @ 109.57
1996 Trans Am WS6 •Pacesetter Longtubes •Strange 12 Bolt •Spohn Suspension •11.152 @ 123.85
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11-19-2006, 07:12 PM
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Tru dat.
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11-19-2006, 07:13 PM
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I just hope the MAF didnt get messed up from being plugged into the air connector...
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11-19-2006, 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob WS6
I just hope the MAF didnt get messed up from being plugged into the air connector...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
dumbass.
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11-19-2006, 08:21 PM
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Keyboard Tough Guy
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oh BTW many 96-97 cars LT1's, V6 fbodies, etc the timing reads a negative...its how GM did it at the time...I usually just make a custom PID for it when tuning those years so it "looks" positive...but GM spits it out as a negative so its not his scanner that is retarded.
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11-19-2006, 08:30 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Autotap reads in +... so his scanner is still retarded. 
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11-19-2006, 08:39 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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ah yes, GM is awesome for this. I made the same mistake with one of the plugs for the distributor on my car..took 2 days to figure out why it wouldnt start 
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