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			lumina crapped out on me today, 72 miles after rolling over 200,000...got spark, got air, not sure on the fuel part. 
 
then, i throw the valve cover and upper intake back on the mustang and go to try to figure out the lumina's problem, and when i get back into the stang to go home, the f***** thing wont start, turned over realllllll slow. jumped it and got it home after a few minutes of beating the piss out of it 
 
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			You should really own a couple of F-body's.    I had 2 of them out today and they run fine.    
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			change the fuel filter and pump on the lumina. 16 years and 200k is a long time for an electric pump to beable to maintain full pressure. it is a cheap fix. 
 
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				change the fuel filter and pump on the lumina. 16 years and 200k is a long time for an electric pump to beable to maintain full pressure. it is a cheap fix. 
  
the mustang jsut had a dead/low battery? check the alt to see if it is dead/dying and draining the battery and check the battery for capacity. 
			
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			well when i tried cranking the mustang over, i was getting pissed and i held the key an extra couple seconds...and the little ground wire that comes off the battery for the body ground melted all the stuff off the outside of it. not sure what that means exactly 
 
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				well when i tried cranking the mustang over, i was getting pissed and i held the key an extra couple seconds...and the little ground wire that comes off the battery for the body ground melted all the stuff off the outside of it. not sure what that means exactly 
 
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			Lumina - I assume it is fuel injected, so there should be a pressure release on the fuel line press that in and see if you got any pressure.  If you don't, then first check all of your lines, make sure nothing retarted happened to 'em.  If that is all kosher, obviously replace the fuel filter.  If that doesn't work, replace the pump. 
 
Mustang - that is weird -- melted ground? hmmm -- well Make sure all your connections are good on the starter.  Check your grounds make sure everything is nice and tight.  Check the battery connections and make sure they are screwed in all the way and tight.  If you doubt your starter/alt/batt. doesn't work you can take it into any advance auto and have it tested for free. 
 
I've been where you are at a million and one times, and I know it's no fun.  In all honesty just take a break from it then go back to it.  Just go over the basics then move deeper into the issue.  And just do one thing at a time.  Your bound to find the issue.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				...and the little ground wire that comes off the battery for the body ground melted all the stuff off the outside of it. not sure what that means exactly. 
			
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			lumina broke the timing chain....got the call from the shop today. going to the j-yard 
 
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				yeah but how many valves are bent is the question. thats an interfearence motor. and with the Stang that wire melting means the starter is trying to ground through that little wire check your ground! ford starters suck nuts too 
			
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			im tired of old cars. i took all my crap out of it, got the radio and speakers out and some other random stuff...scrapyard is gonna give me like 150-200 for it. 
 
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			dude trust me your problems with cars ain't that bad, i have  3 cars to my name each one has blown a trans, and a engine, and a differential. you ll find something you just can beat up on your daily d that's all there is to it, racing is hard on your car nobody can tell me its not. save your money for a while buy soemthign decent you got your money out of the lumina
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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