should we retest the elderly as a requirement for a drivers license?

[Tsar]

Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

tsar, doesn't the FAA require a paper test recert every few years or something like that? regardless of age/hours/flight record?
i seem to remember reading somewhere that they require some sort of training/cert hours every 2 or 3 years or something like that. i jsut don't feel like looking for the info right now.

Yes, you are required to participate in the bi-annual review, regardless of hours or experience. It's mandatory UNLESS you upgrade your certificate to the higher one, then your time is extended for another 24 calendar months. Also every time you switch an aircraft you're due for training in that particular type of the aircraft, but that's mostly airlines thing. In addition to the flight tests there are also 3 medicals, 1st, 2nd and 3rd class. First class medical is only valid for 6 months but that's what's required of you to fly for the airlines (typically ATP certificate), so you have to go back for a new one every 6 months regardless of your coolness or experience. Second class is just for commercial pilots and its valid 12 cal. months. The third one is just for civil aviation, 36 months. Medicals also downgrade, after 6 months first class medical becomes 2nd class, then 3rd, and that pilot can not exercise the privileges of it.

i think i covered most of it

[shane27]

i say after every 5 years
seems more reasonable

[DrachenFire]

there are so many old people that drive literally 20 under the limit around here... i've almost gotten into an accident because some old hag couldn't see over the wheel and decided to pull into my lane last second... they need testing every 6 months...

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by DrachenFire

there are so many old people that drive literally 20 under the limit around here... i've almost gotten into an accident because some old hag couldn't see over the wheel and decided to pull into my lane last second... they need testing every 6 months...

Well thats the townships fault cause they allowed them to build those 2600 old people homes, it frigging ruined this area man, I was born and raised in this house, and when they put those homes up the traffic is more congested, and slower too.

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Well thats the townships fault cause they allowed them to build those 2600 old people homes, it frigging ruined this area man, I was born and raised in this house, and when they put those homes up the traffic is more congested, and slower too.

... your mom couldn't make it to the hospital or what???

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah

... your mom couldn't make it to the hospital or what???

Knowing how lazy my parents are, i wouldnt of been suprised if she did J/K, but you know we all talk bout how bad traffic and old people are around here, but you gotta remember, were one of the, if not the worst driving states, and the worst insurance rates as well.

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by iamsickofitall

with all the terrible drivers on the road, i wouldn't mind EVERYONE being tested again every time they bring their car in for inspection. i know this would be a huge inconvenience and would result in a gianormous tax increase, but it should weed out those that "squeaked by" on their first test and never improved or went really far downhill with their driving "skill".

man, do i like the sound of that. it would keep all marginal drivers up to speed on the laws. then people couldn't say "is that a law?" or "i didn't know that was illegal" or something similar.

but every year is too much. every five, until they reach a certain age or have an accident - then, as punishment, every year until they get the points removed or stop driving altogether.

the only thing i would disagree with is the raise in tax. the MVC is a private company, now, and all permits/licenses/registrations are handled by them. i think the state gets a cut, but i am not sure. it might be in the original contract of the sale to not only sell the DMV to that company but that they have to fork over a vig every year for a certain percentage.

so you handle it like the MVC handles everything: you make the people renewing their licenses pay for the additional testing. problem solved.

[DrachenFire]

Originally Posted by Blacdout96

Well thats the townships fault cause they allowed them to build those 2600 old people homes, it frigging ruined this area man, I was born and raised in this house, and when they put those homes up the traffic is more congested, and slower too.

and it also inflated the real estate market so now the value of all the homes in this township (possibly the entire county) have had their value cut in half... you have no idea how pissed i get when i'm late and stuck behind some hag that's going 10 under... i swear that whoever is running this township actually wants to send it (and all it's inhabitants) to hell...

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by DrachenFire

and it also inflated the real estate market so now the value of all the homes in this township (possibly the entire county) have had their value cut in half... you have no idea how pissed i get when i'm late and stuck behind some hag that's going 10 under... i swear that whoever is running this township actually wants to send it (and all it's inhabitants) to hell...

Well its the board members. Im friends with a member ( not gonna say which one) But she is out ranked by republicans on the board so most of the time her vote never works, like just recently they passed a plan to use...get this, $3,000,000 of our tax dollars on......soccor fields, yes soccor fields, not that great creek and pitney roads could be fixed with that money, god forbid our kids dont have enough fields to play on as it is, i mean they already have 13 i believe, and its not even to build new ones, its just to repair them... WHATS THERE TO REPAIR< ITS F***ING GRASS!!!, even tho they'll never be on any team past high school or college. But she voted against it, and so did one other guy, but to no avail, now our money that i worked hard as hell for, is goign for somethign ill never use, thanks Galloway Township...

[DrachenFire]

Yeh well when they see more car accidents and deaths from crappy roads and too many old people maybe they'll see the light... Or, unlike your friend, they'll be lost in the dark forever... The day I turn 18 is going to be horrible... $3000 a year for car insurance, having to pay taxes and almost everything else... This sucks so much... Hopefully when I go to college in Florida the insurance will be cheaper... Although taxes down there will probably even that out to up here o.0

[Brando56894]

i think we should retest them but i dont know at what rate. yearly seems like it would be too much of a PITA and five years seems like a long time, a lot of stuff could happen in five years. so i voted for once theyve had an accident and then yearly, but by that time it could be too late

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by Brando56894

i voted for once theyve had an accident and then yearly, but by that time it could be too late

i hear people saying this a lot. when do we realize there is a problem, with reactionary thinking? after something has happened. that's why i am for retesting using a timeframe, not after an accident, but using the accident as an added deterrent, like this: retest everyone, regardless of driving record, every two years, like your inspection. if someone gets into an accident and it is found to be that person's fault, then send them to get retested every year until their points are removed or they stop driving.

retesting using a timeframe, and including everyone - not just the elderly - is proactive and it shuts up all of the would-be-crybabies that would scream age discrimination or some such ********.

the bottom line is to make the streets safer, which the seatbelt laws were meant to do but really are just a way for local cops to grap some more of your hard-earned greenbacks.

[98tadriver]

we should test them by kicking them in the hip. if their hip breaks and they fall down, then they cannot drive anymore. if they remain standing, theyre ok

[Savage_Messiah]

Originally Posted by 98tadriver

we should test them by kicking them in the hip. if their hip breaks and they fall down, then they cannot drive anymore. if they remain standing, theyre ok

Well, it looks like Genie is James' chauffeur from here on out!

[98tadriver]

heheheh

[slasherbarb]

i like the retesting idea...but notice it's mostly little old ladies that cause accidents...i was driving behind one on valley rd in wayne and she could barely see over the dash a la Kasey style, and she ended up hopping the curb for two feet and driving on...i passed her a got the hell out of there...

but why can't all families be like old school italian families...neither of my grandmas drive and my grandpa can out-drive most of the people in our family...i vote for the yearly test...but most of the old people are our best Grand Marquis buyers...

[98tadriver]

we need more hans moleman people driving around! and getting hit in groin with football

[Blacdout96]

Originally Posted by 98tadriver

we need more hans moleman people driving around! and getting hit in groin with football

YES!!! Hans Moleman FTW, but Ron it's drivers like you that would make people get tested monthly

[jola]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

I think they should retest everyone at license renewal. With a real road test.

Testing the elderly seems like a good idea but what about the people that have no other way to get around? How are they supposed to get to the doctor, supermarket/food store and places like that?

That's a problem, but I'd rather have an old woman taking a bus or bumming rides then crashing into someone. Though the saying usually applies to young guys who street race and lose their licenses: driving is a privelage, not a right.