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				now, this would look good in your car!
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I would do it if I didn't have so much money and pride invested in the V6 
			
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 well its become more of put up or disappear into a void and never speak again    O well I just want it to run at this point.
 
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			3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5 
 
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			Honestly.... I wouldn't do it. 
 
I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				3.4 + 3.4 + 1.7 = 8.5 
 
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			its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it  oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				its a truck motor, wtf do you expect from it  oh thats right the 450ftlbs of tq 
			
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			no...ls6 manifold, headers, basic bolt ons and a good tune.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I looked into it (I'm doing a 496 for my '69 when the time comes) and the aftermarket support for the Vortec 8.1 just isn't there apparently. Not worth the hassle. 
			
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				when did you do your research?  you can get 502 d-port heads with 320cfm intake for 1200, complete shipped to your door.  you can't get that for a 350.  all said and done, 650 lbs ft and 620 hp for $6500.  that also can't be done with a 350.  if i was ready, that motor would be mine.  i only hope i can find one when i am ready. 
			
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				Last year. There were five of them up for sale on ebay for $2500 each (in crates). What I was told is that a significant amount of Mark IV and Mark V stuff is not compatible (rotating assemblies, camshafts, etc) so even though there are some parts you can use it will be tough to put together a good combination. 
			
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 look around again.  if you can get good heads already worked to 325cc intake for 1200, and the whole kit and kaboodle for $6500, including the long block, i'd say start looking under the seat cushions for spare change.  it can be done, just written about in one of the rags (chevy hi perf. july 2007).  the cover says "small block versus big block, $6500 pump gas shootout, 422CI versus 505CI".  they got to the 505.3 inches by boring .100 over a 454 and adding .25" stroke.  Aerohead Racing supplied the heads for $1115, with 325cc intake ports (sorry, i knew it was somewhere around that).
 
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isky solid flat tappet cam, with 1.75:1 rockers lift is 0.638/0.654 with 259/268 degrees duration with lsa 106 degrees 
ARP accessory bolt kit, balancer bolt and head bolts 
Aerohead Racing new GM 14097088 cast iron heads 118cc combustion chamber, 325cc rectangular intake ports, stainless, swirl-polished valves 2.19/1.88, hardened seats, 3 angle valve job, 7/16th-inch studs with Manley guideplats and upgraded springs 
Edelbrock 2902 Victor Jr 454-R intake 
Fel-Pro gaskets 
Isky lifters and pushrods 
labor 
total: $6360
 
now, this was just on the dyno, not in a real car, but they said they paid attention to the fact that they'd like to put it in a car, so it's not a dyno queen (like the small block in the same article).  it maxed out at 594 lb ft and 622 hp with a compression ratio of 10.5:1 on 91 octane regular unleaded.
 
pretty sweet.
 
as far as incompatibility between the two motors, it's in the heads and it's a water jacket that needs to be shrouded by the deck and a specially made gasket.  
 
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				I sure hope you'd be planning on aluminum heads/intake to go along with it, along with new front springs. That's an iron big block - VERY heavy piece, very bad mod for auto-x. 
 
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				hahahaha i have a FULL bolt on car and am no where near 450 ftlbs 
			
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