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			Not sure whether to go to a 6sp or get the 4l60e rebuilt cause its about had it.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			it depends what you plan on doing with the car. auto x or just cruising, go with the 6 speed. drag racing, auto all the way.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			The car will see the track every once and a while, most of it will be street cruises/car shows.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			dude 6 speed FTMFW!!!!!!!! as long as your not a trany killer
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i would go auto, if ur gonna be a show car nothing a big tranny cooler cant take care of, and if u go 6speed ill hate you even more    and you dont want that, do you?
 
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i give you my advice now: stock t56s have weak shift forks. get a trans from sixspeedsinc.com and it will take anything you throw at it. as for clutches, if you break in a clutch right, it should last you. not to mention, there are great clutches out there that can hold up to abuse better than the specs that crap out all the time. like the ls7 being the milder of the bunch or the textrialia or mcleoud being the higher end. do it right the first time and save money. thats the only way to it. that and get a nice poly trans mount and you have a killer trans thats fun and can take abuse
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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i give you my advice now: stock t56s have weak shift forks. get a trans from sixspeedsinc.com and it will take anything you throw at it. as for clutches, if you break in a clutch right, it should last you. not to mention, there are great clutches out there that can hold up to abuse better than the specs that crap out all the time. like the ls7 being the milder of the bunch or the textrialia or mcleoud being the higher end. do it right the first time and save money. thats the only way to it. that and get a nice poly trans mount and you have a killer trans thats fun and can take abuse 
			
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			I'm in the same boat as you, a busted 4l60e so switching over crossed my mind. The cost was the main factor I decided to stay auto.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My dream car is a second gennie Camaro with a fuel injected stroker, Corvette rear and a six speed! If I had the dough and was building a pleasure car, I'd go six speed all the way.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			What ever i decide it will be done right and done this winter, cutting the floor is no big deal for me i can do it so it looks factory, along with the firewall, i just have to decide whether i want to build up this tranny or just spend a little more and get a built t-56.  The other thing is i really need to get this motor rebuilt soon she's got 111xxx miles on her but when i gets rebuilt im going to do heads and a mild cam but since the 86 is getting tubbed this winter($7000) its going to be hard to come up with the money to rebuild the motor while i pull the tranny.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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				What ever i decide it will be done right and done this winter, cutting the floor is no big deal for me i can do it so it looks factory, along with the firewall, i just have to decide whether i want to build up this tranny or just spend a little more and get a built t-56.  The other thing is i really need to get this motor rebuilt soon she's got 111xxx miles on her but when i gets rebuilt im going to do heads and a mild cam but since the 86 is getting tubbed this winter($7000) its going to be hard to come up with the money to rebuild the motor while i pull the tranny. 
			
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			but mike, can you at least agree that a spec isn't exactly known for being the longest lasting clutch out there? isnt there better out there? granted its hit or miss, but what isn't?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				but mike, can you at least agree that a spec isn't exactly known for being the longest lasting clutch out there? isnt there better out there? granted its hit or miss, but what isn't? 
			
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