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			get the c.o num from slp that say it a 50 state legal exust system and they have to pass you and when ur done tell them to go ******* die
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Me too.  I didn't pass until the fifth try, and that was with stock log manifolds, high flow cat and magnaflow catback. 
			
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				Send to me as well please. If I can get the SLP docs and that I'll take it back and say "Ha, you suck, pass me now."    
			
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 federal guidelines: 
    (1) Any such vehicle manufactured before  
        January 1, 1973 ...........................................   92 dBA 
    (2) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1973, and before January 1, 1975 .....   88 dBA 
    (3) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after 
        January 1, 1975, and before January 1, 1986 .....   86 dBA 
    (4) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1986 ............................................   82 dBA
 
current NJ law: 
N.J. Stat. @ 39:3-70 (2002)
 
@ 39:3-70.  [Mufflers]
 
Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped 
with a  [muffler]  in good working order and in constant operation to prevent 
[excessive or unusual noise and] annoying smoke, AND NO PERSON SHALL MODIFY THE EXHAUST SYSTEM OF A MOTOR VEHICLE IN A MANNER SO THAT THE EXHAUST SYSTEM EMITS IN EXCESS OF  NINETY-FIVE DECIBELS AS MEASURED BY THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS (SAE) STANDARD J1169 ( May 1998 ).  IT SHALL NOT BE A VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION UNLESS PROVEN BY PROPER AUTHORITIES THAT THE EXHAUST SYTEM MODIFICATION RESULTS IN NOISE AMPLIFICATION IN EXCESS OF NINETY-FIVE DECIBELS UNDER THE PRESCRIBED SAE TEST STANDARD.
 A COURT MAY DISMISS ANY ACTION FOR WHICH A PERSON IS PROSECUTED FOR OPERATING A VEHICLE IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE DEFENDANT HAD REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT OPERATED IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION. 
[and] n    No person shall use a  [muffler]  cut-out, bypass or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway.
 
alrighty, then.  take this with you to the inspection station and request the test.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			lol i wonder how many db my exhaust is.  My neighbor said she almost had heart failure when i started my car up the other day...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				federal guidelines: 
    (1) Any such vehicle manufactured before  
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    (2) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1973, and before January 1, 1975 .....   88 dBA 
    (3) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after 
        January 1, 1975, and before January 1, 1986 .....   86 dBA 
    (4) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1986 ............................................   82 dBA 
 
current NJ law: 
N.J. Stat. @ 39:3-70 (2002) 
 
@ 39:3-70.  [Mufflers] 
 
Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped 
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A COURT MAY DISMISS ANY ACTION FOR WHICH A PERSON IS PROSECUTED FOR OPERATING A VEHICLE IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE DEFENDANT HAD REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT OPERATED IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION.  
 
[and] n    No person shall use a  [muffler]  cut-out, bypass or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway. 
 
alrighty, then.  take this with you to the inspection station and request the test. 
			
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 Very cool that you found this but I dont think printing it out on regular papaer will cut it at the inspection. At least the statute numbers are staed and you can force them to get a copy AND make them actually measure using the correct methods. Great find man!    Where do you find all this?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			the same exact thing happened to me...in my BERETTA!  i even knew the guy that failed me...he say the chrome tip from the flowmaster exhaust and he said that it was modified and therefore illegal...went to my mechanic with the story and he almost died laughing...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			havent got bothered about my exhaust yet, but according to the law, i can go up to 86db. i have hedman longtubes with a hedman x-pipe with dynomax mufflers going into dumps
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				havent got bothered about my exhaust yet, but according to the law, i can go up to 86db. i have hedman longtubes with a hedman x-pipe with dynomax mufflers going into dumps 
			
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 now, remember, , those are the federal guidelines, which no one really pays attention to because they all think they have the magic number.  in NJ it's 95, regardless of the car.  and  they have to prove it with an SAE test in order to fail you.  it's not this subjective 'ear of the inspector' anymore.
 
as for not accepting a printout from the internet, that's why i included the statute numbers.  what do they want, a copy from a lawbook?  tell them to take their *** down to the law library, then.  there's an extensive one in echelon, right by the mall.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				havent got bothered about my exhaust yet, but according to the law, i can go up to 86db. i have hedman longtubes with a hedman x-pipe with dynomax mufflers going into dumps 
			
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it's either that or never, ever modify your car.  or, modify it, but then you can't drive it on the street.  that little inspection sticker on the windshield means so much to the cops around here that i wouldn't even think about driving without one.  they actually set up in a small town close to me, on the state highway (route 9) and check your sticker as you roll by (much slower than the speed limit, natch).  all in the name of revenue generation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				federal guidelines: 
    (1) Any such vehicle manufactured before  
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    (2) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1973, and before January 1, 1975 .....   88 dBA 
    (3) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after 
        January 1, 1975, and before January 1, 1986 .....   86 dBA 
    (4) Any such vehicle manufactured on or after  
        January 1, 1986 ............................................   82 dBA 
 
current NJ law: 
N.J. Stat. @ 39:3-70 (2002) 
 
@ 39:3-70.  [Mufflers] 
 
Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped 
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A COURT MAY DISMISS ANY ACTION FOR WHICH A PERSON IS PROSECUTED FOR OPERATING A VEHICLE IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE DEFENDANT HAD REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT OPERATED IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION.  
 
[and] n    No person shall use a  [muffler]  cut-out, bypass or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway. 
 
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Been there and done that last May as I tried to explain to Demonicbird last month on here.. 
If the inspection station doesnt have a d.b. meter they can not fail you because they have no proof or evidence of your exhaust d.b. level.. 
My car has a cam/heads QTP headers and Loudmouth 1 and they failed me.. 
 I printed that out and after 2 minutes of debate with the inspection station manager they passed me through with a sticker because the station didnt even have a d.b. meter...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				 I printed that out and after 2 minutes of debate with the inspection station manager they passed me through with a sticker because the station didnt even have a d.b. meter... 
			
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					Originally Posted by  ins0mnia24
					 
				 
				 I printed that out and after 2 minutes of debate with the inspection station manager they passed me through with a sticker because the station didnt even have a d.b. meter... 
			
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