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		|  09-12-2007, 07:47 PM | #1 |  
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				 Just ordered HP Tuners. 
 
			
			Welp, I figured in the long run that HP Tuners is a better investment in my MPG goals for the Cavalier then buying every fly by night widget that comes down the pike, so I just placed my order. I'm somewhat intimidated by trying to do my own tuning, but ya gotta start somewhere. And I feel I've gotten a pretty good grip on the workings of the Ecotec to give it a good go.
		 
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:07 PM | #2 |  
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			Its definitely a good investment & can be a very fun little tool    |  
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:13 PM | #3 |  
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			Let me know how you make out, because I'm thinking of getting one for the Exploder..
		 
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:14 PM | #4 |  
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			Very cool Bob.     
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:35 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by BonzoHansen  Very cool Bob.    
"You can do it!" |  If by "it" you mean "mess things up..." yup, CAN DO!    
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:36 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Anti_Rice_Guy  Let me know how you make out, because I'm thinking of getting one for the Exploder.. |  Stay tuned for my "adventures in tuning!"    
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:37 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by foff667  Its definitely a good investment & can be a very fun little tool   |  It def seems to be "the real deal." Plus it will be cool to be "in control" of what is going on with my engine.
		 
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		|  09-12-2007, 08:58 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by unstable bob gable  If by "it" you mean "mess things up..." yup, CAN DO!   |  LOL!
		 
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		|  09-12-2007, 09:02 PM | #9 |  
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			good luk with it its a kool program and its not 2 hard 2 use. are u gunna tune with a wideband?
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		|  09-13-2007, 12:32 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by mtg6486  good luk with it its a kool program and its not 2 hard 2 use. are u gunna tune with a wideband? |  Thanks. At first I'm gonna see what I can do w/o a wide band, since it is a stock 4cyl and I'm not looking to make rad. changes.
		 
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		|  09-13-2007, 10:25 PM | #11 |  
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			if you wanna put some pep in the step of that little 4 banger, get rid fo the torque management BS first thing. you would be amazed the power to merge onto highways you will find. extra power = less gas peddle needed to get the job done = savin gas    |  
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		|  09-13-2007, 10:28 PM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER  if you wanna put some pep in the step of that little 4 banger, get rid fo the torque management BS first thing. you would be amazed the power to merge onto highways you will find. extra power = less gas peddle needed to get the job done = savin gas   |  As pathetic as it sounds, I can't even do a burn out in the car w/ the dayum torque management set up.    
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		|  09-14-2007, 07:59 AM | #13 |  
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			*raises hand* um guys this is a 2.2 or 2.4 cylinder cavalier we're talking about here    
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		|  09-14-2007, 05:22 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by foff667  *raises hand* um guys this is a 2.2 or 2.4 cylinder cavalier we're talking about here    
If you think you'll be able to do burnouts at will by deleting TM I got news for ya   |  WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, I had an 87 Z24 Cav w/ a 2.8 V6 w/ 130 HP. It would schmoke' 'em all day long. The 04 2.2 Cavvy has 140 HP [before bolt ons], and it WANTS to do burnouts, but the big hand of the computer holds it back. I'm happy w/ the perfomance of the car otherwise. Oh yeah, I'm gonna defeat the top speed limiter too, so I can top it out on the highway, er, um, I MEAN racetrack!    
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		|  09-15-2007, 12:12 AM | #15 |  
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			let me know how you make out with it. i might be in the market for it soon. BTW... do we get discounts since were members on the forum?   
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		|  09-15-2007, 01:28 AM | #16 |  
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					Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS  let me know how you make out with it. i might be in the market for it soon. BTW... do we get discounts since were members on the forum?   |  I'll be posting my results, and if ya ever wanna see how it works in person just gimme a holla. I think at one point there was a group purchase, but I paid full price. Oh well, if ya wanna play...   
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		|  09-15-2007, 12:18 PM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by unstable bob gable  I'll be posting my results, and if ya ever wanna see how it works in person just gimme a holla. I think at one point there was a group purchase, but I paid full price. Oh well, if ya wanna play...  |  
yea. if you dont mind i would like to see how it works and what not.  just lemmie know when ya get it.  thanks UBG
		 
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		|  09-15-2007, 05:11 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by unstable bob gable  WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, I had an 87 Z24 Cav w/ a 2.8 V6 w/ 130 HP. It would schmoke' 'em all day long. The 04 2.2 Cavvy has 140 HP [before bolt ons], and it WANTS to do burnouts, but the big hand of the computer holds it back. I'm happy w/ the perfomance of the car otherwise. Oh yeah, I'm gonna defeat the top speed limiter too, so I can top it out on the highway, er, um, I MEAN racetrack!   |  
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					Originally Posted by LTb1ow  Junk the pos, spend the money on beer, acquire headache. 
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		|  09-16-2007, 03:27 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Savage_Messiah  errr...   |  What's a matter, you three quarters of a half pint...
		 
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		|  09-21-2007, 04:29 PM | #20 |  
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			UBG. did it come in yet?
		 
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		|  09-21-2007, 05:37 PM | #21 |  
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		|  09-21-2007, 06:56 PM | #22 |  
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			I would def like to check this out once you get it. Always wanted to get into tuning an engine but never had the $$ and cojones at the same time to just belly up and do it. 
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		|  09-21-2007, 07:00 PM | #23 |  
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		|  09-23-2007, 07:14 PM | #24 |  
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			can you use the hptuners for lt1 engines?
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		|  09-23-2007, 07:18 PM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by TheBandit  can you use the hptuners for lt1 engines? |  No, they don't support the LT1 at all. Here's a list of what they support:
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