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09-23-2007, 04:25 PM
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Traction Issues?
What's the best way to help get traction from a dig? I know slicks or drag radials, but is there anything else that'll help?
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09-23-2007, 05:04 PM
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yeah if its a 6speed, slipping the clutch a lil instead of dumping it helps. suspension helps, VHT trackbite helps, a 260lb friend pushing down on the back of your car helps too!
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09-23-2007, 05:14 PM
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yeah, it's an auto. Where in the suspension should I start? The car is pretty much bone stock and I'm not really planning doing too much to the car. Just if I have no traction now, I can't imagine when I do start adding stuff.
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09-23-2007, 06:45 PM
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Start with something simple like a good set of tubular rear lower arms, with poly bushings. They are really easy to install, and will reduce the flex you get from the stock "U" shaped arm, and the rubber bushings also give a lot. Also a tube type Panard bar, again aftermarket (Edlebrock/SLP), with ploy bushings will also help.
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09-23-2007, 07:13 PM
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The panhard won't help as much with straight line traction as much as a good torque arm will.
Also, is your car lowered at all? If so, rear LCA relocation brackets should be your first step.
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09-23-2007, 07:17 PM
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no it's not lowered. The entire car is completely stock.
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09-23-2007, 07:19 PM
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All the suspension work in the world wont do you any good if you dont have a good set of tires...
So I would hope you are asking for things to do in addition to rather than instead of tires.
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09-23-2007, 07:24 PM
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absolutely =)
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09-23-2007, 07:29 PM
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Ok then frame connectors and a good chassis mounted adjustable torque arm would be first on my list..
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09-25-2007, 02:18 PM
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whats the diff with trans mount torque arms and the other kind? i think chasi mount or something?
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09-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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09-25-2007, 02:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oh one ls1 SS
whats the diff with trans mount torque arms and the other kind? i think chasi mount or something?
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The trans mounted actually pull up on trans and transfer that down to the trans mount ( helps break then ) and trans brace. On rare occations they have broken the trans case. But a key factor is most trans mounted do not provide for any change to the pinion angle.
The chassis mounts TA mount into the tunnel or at the G-brace ( such as Spohn or UMI ). These are much heavier then the sock stamped steel peice so they also act as a stiffner to the chassis as well. They move the leverage back and control the rotation of the rear and provide adjustability to the pinion angle.
The way it was explained to me:
You want to limit/eliminate any flex that could lift a wheel or unbalance the traction between the two wheels. SFC will stiffen up the car, TA will fix and pinion wrap ( upward motion ), LCAs and relocation brackets will aid in keeping the rear square ( Rear moving front to back twisting ).
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09-25-2007, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pampered-Z
The trans mounted actually pull up on trans and transfer that down to the trans mount ( helps break then ) and trans brace. On rare occations they have broken the trans case. But a key factor is most trans mounted do not provide for any change to the pinion angle.
The chassis mounts TA mount into the tunnel or at the G-brace ( such as Spohn or UMI ). These are much heavier then the sock stamped steel peice so they also act as a stiffner to the chassis as well. They move the leverage back and control the rotation of the rear and provide adjustability to the pinion angle.
The way it was explained to me:
You want to limit/eliminate any flex that could lift a wheel or unbalance the traction between the two wheels. SFC will stiffen up the car, TA will fix and pinion wrap ( upward motion ), LCAs and relocation brackets will aid in keeping the rear square ( Rear moving front to back twisting ).
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humm.. so chasi mounts are better? i already have the 3 point SFC's and tubular LCS's and a panhard bar.. guess a good T.A. is on the list next
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