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				Winter Project 1 - Exhaust
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Beginning the winter project planning.  I’m starting with the exhaust since Pypes has some nice GP buys this month.  Plus these are the basic designs, so other systems (torque tech, custom/cobbled together) would be similar in nature.  This is for the 77. 
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Option 1: 
 Pypes SGF11 - 2.5” "Rear-Exit" System w/ X-pipe
•	16 gauge, mandrel-bent, 409 stainless steel pipe 
•	Street or Race-Pro mufflers 
•	Factory fit tailpipes, cad plated clamps and stainless hangers. 
 
Option 1a: 
Same as above with  this crazy x-pipe, simply for the cool factor, of course.  All the cool kids have cutouts.    
 
And look at those flames LOL
 
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 Pypes Crossflow setup
 
•	True 'straight thru' flow path. There is absolutely no loss of flow thru the  muffler.  
•	Driveshaft tunnel X crossover kit for maximum ground clearance even on lowered vehicles. 
  
I plan on using this one for the 67, so worst case scenario is I could take it out of the 77 and put it in the 67 and do something else in the 77.  Appears to be same kit, although I have to confirm that.....
 
The added ground clearance is very enticing.  Just looking for thoughts.  The temporary turn downs have to go.  LOL
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-10-2007, 02:31 PM
			
			
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			Crossflow set up with your lowered car , then you can bring the nose down.When you get the  17's it will be even lower. More ground clearance.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			i still say tailpipes look goofy on second gens.  
headers, 3" - 2.5" reducers, x-crossover, magnaflow or similar mufflers, turn downs in front of the rear axle. 
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			The car will have tail pipes.  Not an option.  Go redneck your own car, LOL
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			why would i do that when i can spend your money?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Tailpipes are cheap.  As is the black paint to paint them.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			scott, you should see if you can do the gp, and then pick the parts up at the swap meet and save on shipping....could carry em over to my spot untill it closed for the night and then pull your car in and take them home
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				It started before I drove your car. I just have to look at it the wrong way and your car poops parts. 
			
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			09-10-2007, 05:20 PM
			
			
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				scott, you should see if you can do the gp, and then pick the parts up at the swap meet and save on shipping....could carry em over to my spot untill it closed for the night and then pull your car in and take them home 
			
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				and hope they don't forget to put it in the trailer before they head up there .....    
			
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				you honestly dont think their trailer wont be full of f-body exhausts?  even if they dont have the one he paid for, they will have the model 
			
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				i still say tailpipes look goofy on second gens.  
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			For the record, I want to bottom of my car to resemble this: 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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Feather-light suspension, Konis just couldn't hold.  I'm so glad I took a look inside your showroom doors. 
 
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			That's a sick suspension with some serious tire, a great suspension, and a T56. Why doesn't that car have a driveshaft safety loop??????????????
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			That is a lateral dynamics 3 link, IIRC.  The x-pipe would work for a loop, no?  LOL
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				That is a lateral dynamics 3 link, IIRC.  The x-pipe would work for a loop, no?  LOL 
			
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			That suspension looks BA. Too bad they didnt use mandrel bends on the tubes. 
 
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