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01-26-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by amargari
Definitely talk to a lawyer about this. I was in traffic court a few weeks ago (not for me, I was rear ended and was a witness for the state) and the judge mentioned that there is a case before the supreme court on whether the Breathalyzer exam is legit. Apparently all cases could be thrown out if this is found to be the case.
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one of my buddies is going thru the same thing, he got a DWI a while back and theres something going thru the supreme court about the accuracy of the breathalyzer hes like 25 though
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01-26-2008, 05:39 PM
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the breathlyzer point is moot. it may not be accurate but it won't give a false positive. and since he can't have any alcohol in him, he's in trouble regardless of the alcohol content of his blood
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01-26-2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 98tadriver
one of my buddies is going thru the same thing, he got a DWI a while back and theres something going thru the supreme court about the accuracy of the breathalyzer hes like 25 though
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IIRC that has something to do with the NEW breathalyzer machine, not the old one thats been used forever
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01-27-2008, 07:56 AM
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Jeez cbrr, it seems like everytime you post its something negative.
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01-27-2008, 10:15 AM
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If the breathalizer wasn't properly calibrated(or something to this effect) then the results get thrown out completely. I know someone that was able to avoid a DWI charge because of this, but that was about 20 years ago so I'm not sure if the same scenario applies today.
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01-27-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by qwikz28
the breathlyzer point is moot. it may not be accurate but it won't give a false positive. and since he can't have any alcohol in him, he's in trouble regardless of the alcohol content of his blood
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ya actually some cough drops and some gums can actually turn positive on breathalyzer
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01-27-2008, 11:56 AM
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this is what my friend mike said:
Mike M: demand to see th source code of the breathalyzer
Mike M: cause alot of times police stations update the firmware on them
Mike M: without getting re-licensed for it
Mi: so ask to see the license for the breathalyzer and the source code
Shaneomac92GT: very intresting
Mike M: yea
Mike M: itll get dropped if theyre using a new version that they are not licensed to use lolol
Mike M: little DWI secretz
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01-27-2008, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rafterman
Jeez cbrr, it seems like everytime you post its something negative.
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negative? im correcting false information.
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01-27-2008, 01:10 PM
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GOSH MIKE YOURE SO MEAN
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01-27-2008, 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shane27
this is what my friend mike said:
Mike M: demand to see th source code of the breathalyzer
Mike M: cause alot of times police stations update the firmware on them
Mike M: without getting re-licensed for it
Mi: so ask to see the license for the breathalyzer and the source code
Shaneomac92GT: very intresting
Mike M: yea
Mike M: itll get dropped if theyre using a new version that they are not licensed to use lolol
Mike M: little DWI secretz
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I foudn that amusing.. since cbrrmike = Mike M in my phone
oh yeah, and mike, stop being so mean. even if you're correcting false information, you can at least give constructive criticism.. GOSH!
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01-27-2008, 09:49 PM
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He just went straight to making you blow the breathalizer? I know under 21 and if your .01 or over your DUI material.
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01-27-2008, 09:53 PM
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I don't mean any disrespect to Shane or anything, but all these arguments and legal loop holes are null & void.
Shane's 20, hes not 21 yet so ANY trace of alcohol in him while he is behind the wheel is going to bring a DUI upon him. It doesn't matter if the breathalyser is out of whack or if he was close to his house.
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01-27-2008, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ar0ck
I don't mean any disrespect to Shane or anything, but all these arguments and legal loop holes are null & void.
Shane's 20, hes not 21 yet so ANY trace of alcohol in him while he is behind the wheel is going to bring a DUI upon him. It doesn't matter if the breathalyser is out of whack or if he was close to his house.
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Yea, but what they are saying is that if they don't have a license for the version of breathalyser that they are using, then it shouldn't be able to be used as evidence in a court case against him, and then they have no proof that he had anything to drink.
Not that I agree with that....but the law is what it is.
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01-27-2008, 10:44 PM
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did 2 sobriety tests and did the breathalizer at the police station
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01-28-2008, 12:32 AM
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that sucks good luck in court
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01-28-2008, 09:20 AM
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I saw this article just now and thought of this thread
http://www.news.com/Police-Blotter-B...l?tag=nefd.top
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01-28-2008, 10:03 AM
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it won't blow a false positive, and i'm sure he didn't deny drinking. they could probably smell the alcohol on him
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01-28-2008, 01:13 PM
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Yeah like I said .01 for anyone under 21 is what we were taught in school.
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01-28-2008, 05:02 PM
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don't drink and drive, especially if you underage. /dui's
im not preaching i know we've all done it at one time or another but nowadays cops are not like they used to be!!! and thats a GOOD thing.
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01-28-2008, 06:12 PM
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that link to the article where the commonwealth wouldn't turn over the source code makes me wonder if they're hiding a skewing or not. they say its a 'trade secret' but unless you've got something to hide, why hide it? just show the code and you still get your dui.
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01-28-2008, 07:29 PM
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and thats a GOOD thing.
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not....entirely.
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01-28-2008, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
that link to the article where the commonwealth wouldn't turn over the source code makes me wonder if they're hiding a skewing or not. they say its a 'trade secret' but unless you've got something to hide, why hide it? just show the code and you still get your dui.
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I've seen articles along those same lines with radar guns. The companies don't wanna risk having their code compromised, and they would rather see a few smart/rich people get off the hook than lose their business to another company using their code....
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01-29-2008, 01:06 AM
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I've seen articles along those same lines with radar guns. The companies don't wanna risk having their code compromised, and they would rather see a few smart/rich people get off the hook than lose their business to another company using their code....
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exactly what i was guna say, thatd be like being forced to give your secret family recipet to applebees so they could sell that dish
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01-29-2008, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
I've seen articles along those same lines with radar guns. The companies don't wanna risk having their code compromised, and they would rather see a few smart/rich people get off the hook than lose their business to another company using their code....
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If they were to show their code it would make it a hell of a lot easier to make a jamming device, or even better a device that decrements your speed value to say you are traveling at a much slower rate then you are. I can't believe that they would actually hand over source code like that when it concerns public safety. Maybe they do, but... wow...
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01-29-2008, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shane27
not....entirely.
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ur just saying that becuase u got caught. but if someone that was close to u was killed by a drunk driver....i am sure ur story would change on if its a good thing.....
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