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03-20-2008, 12:08 AM
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Bonzo,
I think the damage has been done, and it has been proven that political threads are gonna end up in a war. I vote "NO" to political threads.
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03-20-2008, 12:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unstable bob gable
Bonzo,
I think the damage has been done, and it has been proven that political threads are gonna end up in a war. I vote "NO" to political threads.
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I do too, but I figured I'd offer the only alternative.
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03-20-2008, 12:11 AM
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American Road Warrior
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
I do too, but I figured I'd offer the only alternative.
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I can understand you wanting to be the voice of reason. But I just look at my thread about "Hillary, Yes or No," and how it ran on for 80 gazillion pages when all I was looking for was a one word answer. After the first 5 pages I gave up!
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03-20-2008, 02:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unstable bob gable
Bonzo,
I think the damage has been done, and it has been proven that political threads are gonna end up in a war. I vote "NO" to political threads.
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I second that!
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03-20-2008, 09:25 AM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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Originally Posted by BonzoHansen
Blaming the mods is easy. The mods always get ragged for locking stuff, and get ragged for not locking stuff, and get ragged for too many rules, and get ragged for not enough rules, oft by the same folks. The subtle hypocrisy can make it hard to get a sense of things sometimes.
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Exactly. When **** like this happens it's our fault for not locking it. But then we get bitched at for locking stuff down.
I was a proponent of allowing the threads on here because they sparked a lot of discussion. And they did. Too bad the personal attacks got out of hand.
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03-20-2008, 09:31 AM
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i didnt blame the mods, i simply said i begged for all political threads to be locked right off the bat, if thats a lie correct me. i was told at that time exactly what you just said scott, that you guys agreed to try it out.
look what happened in the end.......... IT GOT LOCKED
i have been on one board or another since i got my lisence, and while i know that isnt as long as some of you, its been a lot of boards. in all that time i have NOT ONCE seen a political thread stay civil, peacefull, or clean, and due to that, i have NOT ONCE seen a political thread that didnt get locked.
kudos for giving it a try, now treat them like porn and get rid of them
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03-20-2008, 03:20 PM
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I have nothing but the utmost respect for ANYBODY who serves their country, and have ZERO problems with veterans. My problem is with governments who starts needless wars, and people who back the needless loss of lives.
I'm sorry to see you go, it's never good for such a knowledgeable member to leave.
Another vote for no more political threads.
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03-20-2008, 03:28 PM
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i just hate how people bitch about politics. join the armed forces, put your life on the line for a bigger cause, and then you can talk...
and john, i hope u come back eventually
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03-20-2008, 08:01 PM
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if your mature enough you can handle a political thread. apparently they have been banned and thats all i need to say.
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03-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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WOW i want to thank all who posted comments i really appreciated it --
i had spoke to the admins a while back about doing a couple of tech articles and i intend on completing them and get them posted , but being one guy and having a shop full of work its not going as quick as i would like - soon -
one on installing a cam and than degree it correctly < the way we do it not what the comic books tell you and i have about 1/2 of how to build a real racing power glide but i am not sure if any can really use that as most have OD units,
i also have diff set up from the racing side of the business using a mark Williams tool the info will show what not to do so its a maybe yes as well
thanks again for the kind words -- jz
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03-20-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
WOW i want to thank all who posted comments i really appreciated it --
i had spoke to the admins a while back about doing a couple of tech articles and i intend on completing them and get them posted , but being one guy and having a shop full of work its not going as quick as i would like - soon -
one on installing a cam and than degree it correctly < the way we do it not what the comic books tell you and i have about 1/2 of how to build a real racing power glide but i am not sure if any can really use that as most have OD units,
i also have diff set up from the racing side of the business using a mark Williams tool the info will show what not to do so its a maybe yes as well
thanks again for the kind words -- jz
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John, when you're done with the tech articles, send them to me. I'll proof read and translate 
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03-20-2008, 11:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokingSS
i just hate how people bitch about politics. join the armed forces, put your life on the line for a bigger cause, and then you can talk...
and john, i hope u come back eventually
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I agree.
I would love to sit and talk to you john. I have been finding out more and more everyday that there is a military past to my family. A week after I got home from P.I. my grandfather died. At his wake I found out that he was in the Army during Korea. He was a Tank operator. My grandpops on my mothers side was in the Army also, he was a aircraft mech. like I was going to be. MY great grand father on my mothers side was also in the army. he signed in 1917. I have the greatest respect for anyone who serves in the United States military. I tried and it ended up not working out.
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03-20-2008, 11:42 PM
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American Road Warrior
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnjzjz
WOW i want to thank all who posted comments i really appreciated it --
i had spoke to the admins a while back about doing a couple of tech articles and i intend on completing them and get them posted , but being one guy and having a shop full of work its not going as quick as i would like - soon -
one on installing a cam and than degree it correctly < the way we do it not what the comic books tell you and i have about 1/2 of how to build a real racing power glide but i am not sure if any can really use that as most have OD units,
i also have diff set up from the racing side of the business using a mark Williams tool the info will show what not to do so its a maybe yes as well
thanks again for the kind words -- jz
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WOOT, HE'S BACK!  COOL! N' please when yer not busy tell us about your road racin' experiences.
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1991 Dodge Spirit R/T: Gran'pa lookin' 150+ mph turbo rocket.
2013 Dodge Avenger RT: Wastelands cruiser.
2008 Crown Vic Police Interceptor: 'Nuff said!
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03-21-2008, 12:31 AM
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John, I really hope you'll find it in you to return to posting regularly here. I have learned a lot from you, I know that its just the tip of the ice burg. I will also say thank you for your service in the armed forces. I truly and deeply appreciate the sacrifice the men and women of the military make. you are what makes America great 
and as a side note, a lot of times, the admins are busy. it happens. if you have a problem, do not hesitate to pm either Bonzo or myself in addition to justin and tim. I know I didnt get any sort of PM's about what had happened, not sure if scott did though. If someone is being a real jack hole, let me know. I love banning people 
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and 1 more smart ass answer by you and i'm going to reach into this monitor and grab you by the throat
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03-21-2008, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva
John, when you're done with the tech articles, send them to me. I'll proof read and translate |
then send them to me and i will correct spelling and grammar. 
john i hope you can stick around. it's easier knowing some of the people out there get what you are talking about. although i am not as old as some, i am older than others and i have lived a helluva life in and out of the service. stay.
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03-21-2008, 11:14 PM
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kudos for giving it a try, now treat them like porn and get rid of them
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WHOA WHOA WHOA.... what's PORN got to do with politics... LOL let's not attack porn like that. Sheesh what's this world coming to.
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03-21-2008, 11:25 PM
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I'm with Mike, when it comes to politics every one thinks they know better and I just ends up in bad mojo, its always the same people attacking the same people with the same bull crap. NO political threads is the way to go, it would be much more peaceful
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03-22-2008, 11:59 AM
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03-22-2008, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by firehawk1120
WHOA WHOA WHOA.... what's PORN got to do with politics... LOL let's not attack porn like that. Sheesh what's this world coming to.
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03-22-2008, 09:31 PM
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Mike was referring to treating political posts like pornographic posts.....deleting them right away.
The mods and I have been discussing this quite a bit thanks to all the recent political activity, and we have decided that the time has come to no longer allow political discussions on this site. As has been stated earlier in this thread, we were hoping that we could trust the members of this site to remain civil towards each other when discussing politics, but obviously that didn't happen.
So from this point forward, we are no longer allowing any political discussions.
- Justin
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03-22-2008, 10:25 PM
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There IS a way to discuss politics in a respectful manner. Unfortunately some people here can't do that without lobbing insults.
John, you can't let this crap get to you, you come off as a very hardcore conservative...and while I agree with a lot of what you say you're not going to MAKE people agree with your point of view. Can you try to get people to look at "the other side"? Sure, can you possible educate them a little? Absolutely, but you're not going to always have people agree with you.
Let them call you a war monger, let them call you every name in the book...but here are two truths. A) **** 'em, let them believe what they want and B) Those popping off at the mouth lobbing insults would NEVER say this crap to you in a face to face discussion. Let them play internet badasses.
This is no reason to leave a site filled with good people.
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Originally Posted by Frosty
A) **** 'em, let them believe what they want and
B) Those popping off at the mouth lobbing insults would NEVER say this crap to you in a face to face discussion. Let them play internet badasses.
This is no reason to leave a site filled with good people.
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'tis true, tho, you know they would have more respect in person. or at least keep their tongue quite a bit more civil. or keep their mouths shut.
cooler heads will prevail.
heh, i've never seen anyone with enough balls to call another human being a "war monger" face to face.
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03-23-2008, 10:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy
Mike was referring to treating political posts like pornographic posts.....deleting them right away.
The mods and I have been discussing this quite a bit thanks to all the recent political activity, and we have decided that the time has come to no longer allow political discussions on this site. As has been stated earlier in this thread, we were hoping that we could trust the members of this site to remain civil towards each other when discussing politics, but obviously that didn't happen.
So from this point forward, we are no longer allowing any political discussions.
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eh, while i kinda of disagree, at least i dont have to argue with a blue state anymore  
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