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			06-27-2008, 02:20 PM
			
			
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 Not sure, but I think it was largely due to environmental concerns and such. What if one of them topples over and spills oil and stuff like that, I'm guessing. Plus old people in FL don't wanna look at the oil rigs    
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			06-27-2008, 02:39 PM
			
			
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			They banned it for political reasons – a feel good move and oil then was irt cheap.  We are paying for it now – typical of politicians.  I hear people saying o/s drilling will cause environmental issues – they ignore that there was little to no impact from Katrina in regards to o/s drilling.  Facts suck.  LOL 
 
Opening up off shore, Alaska, etc., is good long term sense, plus may add some psychological impact to slow oil speculation, since perceived supply is supposedly the reason for the price jump.  The more oil we can get domestically helps our trade deficit, which last I read is nearly 100% energy related, meaning if you take out energy we have no trade deficit.  That would help with the spiraling $$.  Then is the fed would stop printing money (literally) and raise rates it would bring the dollar back into line which will help more then anything. 
 
$4 will likely never go away – the best we can do is contain it where it is, really.  I still think we need a multi-pronged attack on all this – drill, nukes, clean coal, whatever we have inside our borders and within our current delivery infrastructure.  It would also have a big impact on national security.  Couple all that with energy savings (hybrids, etc) and alternative fuel development and we are on our way.  There is no 1 answer; there are lots of small parts that make up the whole.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-27-2008, 03:14 PM
			
			
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			06-27-2008, 03:16 PM
			
			
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			06-27-2008, 03:30 PM
			
			
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			07-08-2008, 03:22 PM
			
			
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			07-08-2008, 04:27 PM
			
			
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			07-08-2008, 04:32 PM
			
			
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			07-08-2008, 04:35 PM
			
			
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				That'll last for about a 1/2 day or so 'til they come up with some other bogus excuse. I'm actually surprised they didn't go up because the first hurricane of the season formed. 
			
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			07-08-2008, 06:42 PM
			
			
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			Supply is not a problem, they just say it is. 
We cannot refine it fast enough, but demand has only increased 3-4% world wide. 
Dollar is down, speculation is up. 
  
See what happend today when the dollar rose a bit?  Oil went down over 5 dollars a barrell  And yesterday went down 4..   
If the dollar rose back to where it was a few years ago, 100 dollar a barrel oil would be a thing of the past.  Then cut the balls off teh speculators, and we could see 60 dollars a barrell a day after.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I just put some gas in my car for the first time in three monthes, only had ten bucks on me and I got a massive 2.5 gallons....   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Supply is not a problem, they just say it is. 
We cannot refine it fast enough, but demand has only increased 3-4% world wide. 
Dollar is down, speculation is up. 
  
See what happend today when the dollar rose a bit?  Oil went down over 5 dollars a barrell  And yesterday went down 4..   
If the dollar rose back to where it was a few years ago, 100 dollar a barrel oil would be a thing of the past.  Then cut the balls off teh speculators, and we could see 60 dollars a barrell a day after. 
			
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			07-08-2008, 07:11 PM
			
			
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			Weird, Iran tested some missiles but the price of crude didn't go up. Whats going on?    
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				Weird, Iran tested some missiles but the price of crude didn't go up. Whats going on?    
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