basic speaker questions... - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

madness410 · 06-24-2008, 11:53 PM

im looking to drop a few bucks (well, actually whatever it takes) into some speakers all around in my 87 camaro. right now i have two rear sony speakers, which are loud and get the job done but im a big music buff and would like to hear some type of quality. so i have a few questions..

what are the basic things to look for when on the market for speakers?
does anybody recommend a certain type?
does your headunit play a major part in deciding what speakers to get also

TheBandit · 06-25-2008, 01:32 PM

Are you going with the stock sizes that were in thirdgens? i suggest you dont and put in components. Fab up some plates for the rear so you can run some component speakers.

deadtrend1 · 06-25-2008, 04:22 PM

Don't use the 4x6's and go with component kick panels in the front. Crutchfield's q forms hold 5 1/4" separates last time i checked.

And ditch the oval 6x9's in the rear and go with a 6.5' round speaker setup.

madness410 · 06-25-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by deadtrend1

Don't use the 4x6's and go with component kick panels in the front. Crutchfield's q forms hold 5 1/4" separates last time i checked.

And ditch the oval 6x9's in the rear and go with a 6.5' round speaker setup.

well whats wrong with the stock panels...better sound out of the setup you said?

Tru2Chevy · 06-25-2008, 10:51 PM

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well whats wrong with the stock panels...better sound out of the setup you said?

Yes, round speakers will produce better sound than oval speakers.

- Justin

Jersyboyy · 06-26-2008, 10:01 PM

Don't go getting fancy with q forms and custom speaker plates. Just replace the stock speakers with some good name brand speakers eclipse make great speakers just stay away from any thing at walmart, stay away from sony and jenson. .Perferablly 2 ways,they have built in tweeters and with an aftermarket deck will sound good.Throw in an eq and a small amp for the highs and you got a really clean crisp sounding interior. Add a sub in the rear well and your off to sound heaven.

Hifisoundconnection.com for good deals on decent audio stuff. They have a 18" square Kicker solo x sub that iv wanted for years now just need to save the 1500 to get it!

madness410 · 06-26-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

Don't go getting fancy with q forms and custom speaker plates. Just replace the stock speakers with some good name brand speakers eclipse make great speakers just stay away from any thing at walmart, stay away from sony and jenson. .Perferablly 2 ways,they have built in tweeters and with an aftermarket deck will sound good.Throw in an eq and a small amp for the highs and you got a really clean crisp sounding interior. Add a sub in the rear well and your off to sound heaven.

Hifisoundconnection.com for good deals on decent audio stuff. They have a 18" square Kicker solo x sub that iv wanted for years now just need to save the 1500 to get it!

thanks for the input man. yeah i was thinking of dropping a pretty penny...my boy works at best buy so he can get me a sick employee discount. i wanted all alpine stuff..

and who buys car audio at walmart?!

deadtrend1 · 06-27-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

Don't go getting fancy with q forms and custom speaker plates...!

Eh, I never gotten decent sound out of 4x6's. I have Polk all around in my 86 and sound imaging sucks.

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Originally Posted by madness410

and who buys car audio at walmart?!

A Kenwood Headunit is a Kenwood headunit no matter where its sold.

Jersyboyy · 07-01-2008, 08:03 PM

If you got a discount then your set, otherwise they take the cheaper stuff from most manufactorer's and throw a huge price tag on it.

Alpine is pretty good, not as good as every one makes it out to be, but those type r subs do sound pretty good in person. I do have to admit they make some of the better headunits iv seen to.

Pioneer premier is pretty good stuff too, just stay away from the regular pioneer stuff.

If you want to same some dough on install id be more than happy to help you out too.

deadtrend1 · 07-01-2008, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

Pioneer premier is pretty good stuff too, just stay away from the regular pioneer stuff.

Why ... absolutely nothing wrong with Pioneer. Mine is about 5 years old and has great range of adustment on the EQ and still sounds great.

TheBandit · 07-05-2008, 08:14 AM

Pioneer, Alpine, Eclipse is all good stuff. Jersy why a Solo X woofer? Yeah its gonna be loud, but it's not going to sound very good. I personally wouldn't spend the $1500 on it.. check out DD (Digital Designs) for $1500 you'll get a DD woofer that will sound amazing and be as loud if not louder than that solo x.

qwikz28 · 07-05-2008, 09:28 AM

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Pioneer, Alpine, Eclipse is all good stuff. Jersy why a Solo X woofer? Yeah its gonna be loud, but it's not going to sound very good. I personally wouldn't spend the $1500 on it.. check out DD (Digital Designs) for $1500 you'll get a DD woofer that will sound amazing and be as loud if not louder than that solo x.

yup solo X is competition and useless otherwise IMO. get a good set of woofers and work your way up if you want more

TheBandit · 07-06-2008, 11:00 AM

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yup solo X is competition and useless otherwise IMO. get a good set of woofers and work your way up if you want more

Yessir i agree. Solo X is pointless to have in a DD car to just listen music to. Check out AA, DD, RD Audio, Soudsplinter, and RE they all make good woofers.

Jersyboyy · 07-06-2008, 11:25 PM

You guys dont understand the level of sound I need. I grew up with brothers who had old school onkyo systems with 12" cerwin vega subs in each one of their rooms. Parties almost every time a parent went out when I was young. Regular subs dont cut it. I had 2 15"s in my camaro before daily driving it. Solo x is an asounding sub and its built in 3 separate pieces, which makes it rebuildable in case you blow it.

O and compare regular pioneer stuff to other companys for the same price and their garbage. For the money, at the same price range most other companys wash out pioneer. Premier is a different story.

qwikz28 · 07-07-2008, 08:10 AM

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You guys dont understand the level of sound I need. I grew up with brothers who had old school onkyo systems with 12" cerwin vega subs in each one of their rooms. Parties almost every time a parent went out when I was young. Regular subs dont cut it. I had 2 15"s in my camaro before daily driving it. Solo x is an asounding sub and its built in 3 separate pieces, which makes it rebuildable in case you blow it.

O and compare regular pioneer stuff to other companys for the same price and their garbage. For the money, at the same price range most other companys wash out pioneer. Premier is a different story.

you can get great bass from regular subs, a solo x just makes noise. even MTX 9500s would exceed your needs. i have RE audio subs and they are incredible.

TheBandit · 07-07-2008, 03:07 PM

To even consider an 18" solo x in a DD is foolish. so you going to get an amp for that 5000watt RMS rating that solo x has? time to upgrade the electrical system then.

Jersyboyy · 07-07-2008, 05:27 PM

HAHA I need to get my moor running before I ever think about a bigger system anyway.

TheBandit · 07-07-2008, 07:38 PM

Lol i always have big hopes to realize i cant afford the first thing i wanted to work on

Tru2Chevy · 07-07-2008, 08:56 PM

Hell, I've got a 10" JL w1 in my Cherokee and that is plenty for me.

- Justin

SuperSweet · 07-08-2008, 01:37 PM

If i remember correctly the solo x weighs some where around 90lbs? That a bit too much for me to put in a DD. Not to mention to build a box with enough bracing and support would add at least another 50lbs between MDF and angle iron. I've seen two of these put into a competition Jimmy and the box was HUGE with enough angle iron to use as SFC's.

TheBandit · 07-08-2008, 02:24 PM

And it would quite a struggle to get the proper airspace needed for such a big sub in a 3rd gen maro.

Jersyboyy · 07-09-2008, 12:07 AM

Iv seen two 12"s retrofitted in the rear seat section of a thirdgen. It could be done for a single 15". Fiberglass is one hell of a substance and can be constructed in custom spaces including whole rear sections of a vehicle.

TheBandit · 07-09-2008, 11:56 AM

Oh yeah ive had 2 12s and a 15 in my 86. I realize it's kinda stupid now but i had a dog of a 305 anyway so the extra 90lbs didnt bother me. but that 18" with the kind of box it would need could be close if not more than 200lbs. No point in putting so much weight in the car. i suggest a nice DD 10" or Fi 10" something along those lines and that should be enough.

sweetbmxrider · 07-09-2008, 03:24 PM

i've got like 2 8's or 10's in truck boxes on my rear deck. i like it

qwikz28 · 07-11-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersyboyy

Iv seen two 12"s retrofitted in the rear seat section of a thirdgen. It could be done for a single 15". Fiberglass is one hell of a substance and can be constructed in custom spaces including whole rear sections of a vehicle.

the best place to put a sub is in the hatch. the bass will sound 3x louder when teh subs are in the hatch as opposed to the back seat. there is some physics to it but just take my word for it