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			no, but completely against a used that is listed for the same i can get new for   
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i'm not completely against anything, except maybe the chevy aveo. thats just ugly. if its a good price and gets good mileage and has good space available, no, not against it at all. HHR might fit the bill better than anything just because of the fold flat seats. i'm gonna have to go look at some to see if i like any other colors, and also go back and look at the astra and see what the rear looks like with seat folded down.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I spy a '68 Mustang Coupe, and a '48 Chevy Fleetmaster?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			You should be able to get 28-32 mpg with the Camaro on the highway, a lot of people do with the 6 speed.  So if you were to get another vehicle, I would want it to get 35 mpg at a minimum otherwise I would drive the Camaro.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			My sister in law got a new Yaris - she is very happy with it - she has seen upper 30's to low 40 mpg. 
You may also want to look at a hyundai accent.  It starts at $10,700 and decently optioned at around $12,500.  Runs on regular - mid 30's mpg.
 
You may want to spend time on  www.fueleconomy.gov as you can find the epa fuel economy #'s and then people also submt their real world #'s.
 
The accent has seen 35-40 mpg
 
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				You should be able to get 28-32 mpg with the Camaro on the highway, a lot of people do with the 6 speed.  So if you were to get another vehicle, I would want it to get 35 mpg at a minimum otherwise I would drive the Camaro. 
			
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				My sister in law got a new Yaris - she is very happy with it - she has seen upper 30's to low 40 mpg. 
You may also want to look at a hyundai accent.  It starts at $10,700 and decently optioned at around $12,500.  Runs on regular - mid 30's mpg.
 
You may want to spend time on  www.fueleconomy.gov as you can find the epa fuel economy #'s and then people also submt their real world #'s.
 
The accent has seen 35-40 mpg
 
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			I told you BTK has an elantra (I think that's the right model) he uses to schlep to newark for work.  He has had no problems.  And his other ride is a 502 powered 2nd gen, so there is hope you can cope. (hey, a rhyme!)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			As Scott said I paid about $10,700 out the door. Car stickerd for $16,500. I get 38 + mpg hwy. Car is loaded: leather, kenwood mp3 , Gt model ,etc. I got it in 04 , 90,000 miles later no problems at all. Hyundai has really come a long way , since about  00' . Great warranty also 10yrs / 100,000 . Good beater for the $.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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outside of that, i think you are headed in the right direction.  i know that it doesn't  have to be a domestic for you, but i am glad you gave them a look.  the quality really has skyrocketed over what they were producing in the 80s and 90s.  about the only think i can thank the imports for is cup holders.  until they had them, i don't think the domestic car makers even thought about putting them in cars.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			hyundai has improved a great deal since they first came out. but i don't have any experience with them.  
 
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			after test driving, and a few days of non stop research, i think i'm gonna go buy one of the last '08 hhr's. With all the rebates that I qualify for I can get it for a very good price. I just have to wait til Steve has some time to come with me to talk prices to the sales guy. The guy I've been talking to doesnt seem like a scummy salesman, but maybe he's just good at his job. I'd rather have someone who's worked in sales come with me and make sure I'm not getting double talked or have to pay something thats nonsense as I've never bought a new car before. 
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