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			Been thinking about getting the Saturn Astra for awhile, and now that is starting to become more a of reality, so I started to look at a couple of other cars in the same class. Heres what I got: 
 
All cars are 5sp Manual, have yet to drive any of them 
 
2008 Saturn Astra XR 3dr - $19,850 - Pros: 28/32mpg, GM, fresh new look for the US, tried and true in Europe, good stereo and heated seats, sporty suspension; Cons: weak sounding 138hp 1.8l Eco-tech 
 
2009 Mitsu Lancer GTS 4dr - $20,665 - Pros: Sportiest at 170hp and tuned suspension, kick butt 650watt stereo, good looking; Cons: highest price, 21/28mpg, import, ricer boy image 
 
2009 Subie Impreza 2.5i 5dr - $19,640 - Pros: Most space and cargo, subie all wheel drive, lowest price; Cons: 20/27mpg, looks aren't that great, import, weak stereo 
 
Just fishing for thoughts here and suggestions, I here great things about the HHR but it has no apeal to me at all, I'm 23 so things like stereos and looks matter, but they don't beat out praticality. 
 
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			07-23-2008, 12:19 PM
			
			
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			i have one word for you: HHR. 
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			i'd go with the astra. 
 
btw, the fact that its an import shouldnt be on the cons list... 
 
stereos can be upgraded fairly cheap and sound better than any factory "650 watt" stereo 
 
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			07-23-2008, 12:31 PM
			
			
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			i would prefer to buy an american car, also don't want to mod the car as it will probably just be a lease. i really like the saturn hopefully its not a weak little car and will be able to scoot around a little
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Ferrari F430?   
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			my friend got the impreza your right about it but that car is soo fun to drive it hugs the road well for a baseline car
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I was in the EXACT same spot as you like a week and a half ago. I really liked the Astra, especially all the reviews about it, but there were a few things I didn't like once I test drove it. The motor is weak, the shifter feels a little spongy, and the radio and DIC are completely unmarked. It took me and paul a good amount of time to figure out how to work it.  
 
I too didn't like the look of the HHR up til probably 2 weeks ago. I went and test drove one just for the hell of it, and lo and behold, I boguht one this weekend. Just go test one, even if the one you test is an automatic, it will give you the feel of what the cars about.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Astra.  The only reason I didnt put a gun to Melissa's head was because she needs to haul around dead boddies or something.  
Astra 3dr, the hottest compact on the market.   
Astra is America...via Germany, but all comes back to Renn Center.   
 
138hp motor is average with what everyone else has.  Cobalt's 2.2 is a bit more torquey but I enjoyed my little thrashing of an XR 3dr with sport package and 5spd.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I'm goin out tomorrow to hopefully thrash all three cars, but at least the Astra. I'm really hoping the Astra makes me happy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Astra will, as long as you arent expecting neck snapping power.   
 
Only other car I can think of that ccan match Astra XR 3dr is the Mazda3 2.3.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			HHR or Subaru. HHR is awesome, and the Subaru handles great. HHR is a lot cheaper right now though.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Just signed a 3 yr lease on the Impreza, $311 a month $500 down. I pick it up on monday.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			don't have $580 to spend a month on a new car
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			whats your credit like? I was looking at under $300 a month for both HHR and Astra
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Speaking of Suabru, what have they done with the STI? it's the ugliest STI to date... Who thought making it into a wagon would be a good idea? 
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			my credit was 630, and its a loaded impreza. i thought the new impreza were uglier then sin but it looks really good in person.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			I like the look of the saturn. 
 
My mom has an 03 5 speed wrx. 
Pro's: her confidence in snow rain, held up VERY well considering her sporadic maintenance.  She drives the car all over vermont in the winter and she has all season tires and it has never let her down 
Cons: stereo is horrible, doors sound "tinny" when closed etc, difficult to work on engine 
 
Its peppy but needs a bit more oomph and a 6th gear would be nice.... but I'd get one if I had the money 
 
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			Damn...Astra loses again. 
Saturn cant sell these things at all!!  Cobalt factory is on over time with 3 shifts and weekends with a 16 day average sitting on dealer lots while the Astra is 306 day average....
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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