Story of my life....

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

First off...lets leave your mom out of this. In the end, she has zero to say about this cause she doesnt know wtf she is doing.

I disagree. He lives under her roof, she pays the bills (food, taxes, heat, etc., ...the bills), he is likely on her insurance policy. She is in charge.

Matt you are doing the right thing following your Mother's wishes. Respect.


List exactly why it will fail. The guys are right about thepink card & the time during failed sticker. If it is non-safety items discuss it with her. Safety items ground the car IMO.

[WayFast84]

Its reverse lights and horn, Emissions and how loud the car is(still real quiet). The skinnys on the front. and I need to rebuild my head light motors and have no clue how...

We never got the pink card... We are going back to the DMV tomorrow.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

Its reverse lights and horn, Emissions and how loud the car is(still real quiet). The skinnys on the front. and I need to rebuild my head light motors and have no clue how...

We never got the pink card... We are going back to the DMV tomorrow.

None of that is safety (one could argue the rev lights and tire selection). If the front tires have a DOT on them (and are not bald) they are legal. If they don't you need street tires anyway.

Does the car have a cat?

What's with the r/l? The shifter?

[cdacda13]

Headlight motors are easy to re-build. Plus, the re-build kit comes with directions.
For reverse lights, are the bulbs bad? Or is the shifter out of adjustment? The shifter was out of adjustment on mine. Just play with it and have a friend stand behind the car to see when the lights work.
Bonzo's right, as long as the tires say DOT and aren't bald, you're good.
As for the sound, as long as it doesn't rattle the teeth, you should be fine.
The horn is most likely the button in the steering wheel. Get to them, spray some contact cleaner on them, and you'll be fine.

The finishing a car is much harder then starting a car.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by cdacda13

The finishing a car is much harder then starting a car.

Amen.

Hang in there Matt. As they say, if it were easy everybody would do it.

[WayFast84]

Its got a hurst .25stick it has no hook up for reverse lights.. I checked the contacts in the wheel and at the horn in the fender. Yes it has a cat.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

Its got a hurst .25stick it has no hook up for reverse lights.. I checked the contacts in the wheel and at the horn in the fender. Yes it has a cat.

Matt:

Originally Posted by Hurst's Web Site

THE ORIGINALL QUARTER STICK®

• Designed for 2, 3 and 4-speed automatic transmissions in both forward and reverse valve body shift patterns
• Detent activation is controlled by a chrome-plated trigger contoured to fit comfortably into the driver’s hand
• Extremely compact and lightweight for tight fit cockpit installation and weighs only 2.5 pounds
• Comes with factory installed neutral safety switch (back-up light switch is available separately)
• Controlled gate stop activation for positive feel
• One-hand operated, spring loaded reverse Loc/Out mechanism enables drivers to clear the reverse Loc/Out while remaining strapped in their shoulder harness belts
• Comes complete with hardware, 5’ long shifter cable, and easy to follow installation guide
• Forged aluminum stick for added strength has 7/16-20 thread
• Optional covers (sold separately)

Now check out this, it looks like it may be what you need:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Hurst/530/248-...7%7C10627#

Don't give up so easily.

[WayFast84]

Thats just a switch, I can make my own damn toggle switch if I had to, But I thought the reverse lights would have to go on automatically???

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by WayFast84

Thats just a switch, I can make my own damn toggle switch if I had to, But I thought the reverse lights would have to go on automatically???

That is all reverse switches are- they go on automatically when the stick is pulled back and it triggers the switch. A manually operated toggle is not legal for a few reasons.

If you are still skeptical, call Hurst and ask them.

[69BirdX]

Emmisons go ny what year the motor is in the car. If i put and ls1 in my 69 i have to pass emissons for that year ls1 but if i put my pontiac 350 in my 98 i wont have to pass emissons. As long as the engine is the same make as the car is is legal
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[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by 69BirdX

Emmisons go ny what year the motor is in the car. If i put and ls1 in my 69 i have to pass emissons for that year ls1 but if i put my pontiac 350 in my 98 i wont have to pass emissons. As long as the engine is the same make as the car is is legal

Not sure that is true in NJ. It is in Cali. Except the "pontiac 350 in my 98" part.

[SteveR]

I can understand the emissions thing, but not having wiring or brake lights in a car that you want to drive on the street is silly. Not just because every cop that ever gets behind you will pull you over, but because thats a safety issue. You cant get mad about it, just get it street legal.

[79CamaroDiva]

if you read further down, he meant reverse lights, not brake lights.

[NastyEllEssWon]

nj emissions standards says the motor has to be of same year or newer to be eligible for emissions. however, you have an 84 which the gen 1 small block v8s were still used...which would make any small block chevy eligible for your year car...technically.

emissions your probably gonna have to throw some stock exhaust manifolds on and a stock exhaust system. i have a stock behind the axle muffler from my 86 sport coupe (305) that you can have if you wanna come pick it up. just pm me.

as for the reverse switch..the other guys covered that.

edit: i have a red sticker on my camaro too. never get bothered for it. i also have yet to register my daily driver (beretta) and still has connecticut sticker on it. cops generally dont bother you about the sticker unless they pull you over for something else

[SteveR]

Originally Posted by 79CamaroDiva

if you read further down, he meant reverse lights, not brake lights.

yea I have ADD, thats a lot of words

[sweetbmxrider]

you don't need reverse lights to pass inspection. i don't know why, i don't make the rules either. fix the nitty gritty crap like the horn and whatever else so you can drive on the road, get put in a white knuckle situation, and live to tell us about it. bitchin and moanin isn't gunna finish the car. scratchin heads and turnin wrenches will. you want to drive something you can trust and not worry about. i replaced my steering wheel and broke the tab to secure the power wire for the horn. i was cut off on the parkway, bad, and couldn't do crap about it cept swerve and pray. i fixed my horn the next day. do it and do it right

[JL8Jeff]

Are reverse lights required for inspection? I don't remember at this point. But overall, you are going through what everyone has gone through when you modify a car. Don't be in a hurry to try and make it to the first event with the car. If it's not ready, take the time to fix the stuff correctly. You should have gotten a 2 week pink card with the initial registration. But it's really up to your mom if she thinks it's safe to drive or not. I wouldn't even try going through inspection with skinny's up front, that will just make them look for other problems. Check all the lights, blinkers, horn, wipers, etc. to make sure most of the stuff is working. If the emission's are off, you can probably do some tweaking or buy some of the additive(which I would definitely try to begin with) to help pass. It might even be worth a couple of extra bucks to take the car to a local garage and have them check the emission's to see how close you are. If you're way off, then you need to do something to get it closer to pass. They will want some proof of "repair" after your initial fail so why even risk the initial fail if you're not sure where the emission's are.

[sweetbmxrider]

you, as the owner, could tune the carb. that is proof enough for a repair. you should get the car to pass emissions. you do not need reverse lights for inspection

[NastyEllEssWon]

Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider

you, as the owner, could tune the carb. that is proof enough for a repair. you should get the car to pass emissions. you do not need reverse lights for inspection

unfortunately it doesnt work like that. if you fail for emissions, next time you go to get retested theyre going to scrutinize you even harder and make sure that the repairs youve done are actually repairs and not quick fix it to get it pass type deal. usually they would like to see some reciepts for parts if you do the work yourself. most likely once you fail for emissions your kinda screwed with the hard stick.

i drive with a rejected sticker. never got problems with it before

[88IrocVert]

Originally Posted by ar0ck

Your parents are just looking out for you. A failure to inspect is $150, you have the money for one when the cop with a keen eye pulls you over? I've gotten 4 of them & managed to talk myself out of another 4. Trust me they are no fun.

Burlington City got me for $230.00!!

[sweetbmxrider]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

unfortunately it doesnt work like that. if you fail for emissions, next time you go to get retested theyre going to scrutinize you even harder and make sure that the repairs youve done are actually repairs and not quick fix it to get it pass type deal. usually they would like to see some reciepts for parts if you do the work yourself. most likely once you fail for emissions your kinda screwed with the hard stick.

i drive with a rejected sticker. never got problems with it before

um...no. if your car was running rich, it would have high emissions. if you lean the carb some, your emissions will "magically" lower. therefor, you can now pass inspection. it does work like that. i don't see how they can scrutinize you more? they run the car on a dyno with an rpm gauge and an exhaust probe. unless his is old enough for an idle test. the car would sit at idle, then rev up to 3K, then back to idle. in either case, an owner can simply tune their carb and pass emissions no problem. k thanks

[NastyEllEssWon]

because once you fail for emissions your screwed. what your saying is true if its a stock camaro 305 with all the emissions equipment....once you fail for emissions theyre going to want to see paperwork and go over your car with a fine toothed comb. theyre gonna want to see egr and air injection emission garbage

[sweetbmxrider]

they will check what it failed for. thats it.

[NastyEllEssWon]

you can guarantee they will pop the hood

[NJ Torque]

No. They won't pop the hood.

My SS monte failed 2 times before it passed at the state DMV for emissions. Once I tuned the carb, failed... then came back, cleaned out the EGR, it passed... They never wanted to see where the car was worked on.