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can they do that, since you pay the college $ xx,xxx amount/yr for tuition?
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Sure, you can't do something illegal on their dime. They throw people out of housing for breaking laws.
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12-20-2008, 11:14 PM
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can they do that, since you pay the college $ xx,xxx amount/yr for tuition?
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Absolutely. They used to do that at St. Joe's and Villanova all the time.
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12-20-2008, 11:18 PM
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Sure, you can't do something illegal on their dime. They throw people out of housing for breaking laws.
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ahhhh. I see. I didn't think of that. Forgot the "illegal" part of it 
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12-20-2008, 11:23 PM
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If you ask me, I think its just to scare us.... ALOT of people d/l or "share" music with out paying for them, They would cut sooo much connections that they would be loosing Alot of business. just my 2 cents......
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Last edited by FIcamaroRE92; 12-20-2008 at 11:24 PM.
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12-21-2008, 11:02 AM
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it does stir the innocent till proven guilty aspect. i hope someone who gets their service cut has the time, patience, and money to go about suing everyone!
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12-21-2008, 01:32 PM
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i dont understand whats so hard about paying for music. especially with the ability to buy single songs. you like the song? people worked hard on it. pay the damn dollar for it. not a hard concept. its not about the record companies getting their money, its about the people who worked on that particular song needing to get paid for their education and abilities.
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12-21-2008, 01:35 PM
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They have enough money as it is.
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12-21-2008, 01:50 PM
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They have enough money as it is.
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thats probably one of the most naive statements i've read on here.
if someone spends 100s of thousands of dollars on an education to be an electrical engineer, is he supposed to turn around and work for free because people feel that the company he works for "has enough money"?
whats different about audio engineers, studio owners, technicians, all the people behind the scenes that you don't see on album covers?
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12-21-2008, 01:58 PM
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Nothing, but I have little of no care for multimillionaires losing some drinking/party money.
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12-21-2008, 02:21 PM
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Well, what I do, since i d/l albums, not individual songs, is if I like the album that much, i'll buy a copy. If I dont, i remove it from my hard drive. Most of the music i have on my computer came from CD's that I own.
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12-21-2008, 02:58 PM
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its not like the bands arent making any money. The can make about 500k per concert if they play their cards right. Not including all the merchandise they sell, and all the clothing/ guitar/ amp/mic contracts they get. Some rock groups get payed to wear certin brands of clothing. Ex: Korn Used to get paid to wear adidas clothing in the 90's when they were good. and on top of that alot of people still buy their albums for the hell of it.
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12-21-2008, 03:36 PM
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yeah most artists aren't really hurting in the $$ area. plus piracy can get an individual band more attention then doing it by themselves. someone will show me a song by a group and i'll love it, i'll go get the cd. some of the new crap by the big names sucks so bad, i won't take it for free.
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12-21-2008, 03:38 PM
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the average artist is not a big act.
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12-21-2008, 03:40 PM
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yeah most artists aren't really hurting in the $$ area. plus piracy can get an individual band more attention then doing it by themselves. someone will show me a song by a group and i'll love it, i'll go get the cd. some of the new crap by the big names sucks so bad, i won't take it for free.
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Like the new GnR? 
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12-21-2008, 03:50 PM
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12-26-2008, 01:19 AM
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That is my question. I don't d/l copyrighted stuff, but I needs my concert recordings....
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there is no such thing as legal torrents. Live material is also copyrighted material. When a band signs a contract, the label also owns all rights to live performances, so concerts are also technically the property of the label. I really don't agree in this area, and I have tons of live material.
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12-26-2008, 01:20 AM
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It's amusing to see everybody talking about how people aren't hurting for money in the music business, yet none of you are in it.
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there is no such thing as legal torrents. Live material is also copyrighted material. When a band signs a contract, the label also owns all rights to live performances, so concerts are also technically the property of the label. I really don't agree in this area, and I have tons of live material.
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Some bands are very trader friendly, and in fact encourage it. Gov't mule is a great example. Even ole led wallet jimmy page says he has no problems with audience recordings being shared (sold is a different argument).
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12-26-2008, 10:37 AM
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Some bands are very trader friendly, and in fact encourage it. Gov't mule is a great example. Even ole led wallet jimmy page says he has no problems with audience recordings being shared (sold is a different argument).
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Yep, a lot of bands encourage fans to record their shows, and don't really support the label ownership of their live performances. Pearl jam is another good example, as is Phish, Greatful Dead, System of a Down, 311, and a lot of others.
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12-26-2008, 03:31 PM
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Nothing, but I have little of no care for multimillionaires losing some drinking/party money.
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Too the bigger artists. If you pirate mainstream songs that artist loses $.xx amount of money. Matt Embree said it in an interview. Less known bands like the RX Bandits who produce their own music are actually losing dollar amounts, not fractions of a dollar. I pay 15.00 a month with my Zune and get unlimited songs. Seems good enough for me.
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