Commonly used incorrect automotive terms

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

All of them?

No. In the 94+ F-body. 93 got RPO M29. Isuzu trucks got M51. ML6 and ML9 were the ZF 6 spd.

However MM6 and M29 transmissions are close enough to make that a wash. I'd guess that M51, ML6, and ML9 swaps into F-bodies are pretty rare.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

No. In the 94+ F-body. 93 got RPO M29. Isuzu trucks got M51. ML6 and ML9 were the ZF 6 spd.

However MM6 and M29 transmissions are close enough to make that a wash. I'd guess that M51, ML6, and ML9 swaps into F-bodies are pretty rare.

IIRC the gear differences are great enough impact rear gear selection. Thus my complaint regarding tech help.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

IIRC the gear differences are great enough impact rear gear selection. Thus my complaint regarding tech help.

Good point. I didn't think of that.

[Pampered-Z]

Actually there were 2 performance options on the 93 f-bodies:

PEG1 = M28, 2:73 gears ( 235 wide none Z rated tires, 120 Speed-o, speed limiter as well ( 112-117MPH?)

PEG2 = M29, 3:23s, 245s - Z tires and 150 speed-o, no limiter.

94+ all used the same trans but you could option different rear gear ratios.

[Knipps]

Not car related but people talking about calculations and they say "times 100%" well times 100% does not give you the same as if you were to multiply by 100 and use it as a percent..

[NastyEllEssWon]

talk about anal. fine we can shove it back to the older generations as well.


i hate when people call the trans/driveshaft tunnel a CAT HUMP.



it just seems like the older guys hate 4th gens and their newfangled monikers.


btw 94+ a4 are all 4l60....93 and before were 700r4's.

[91chevywt]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

talk about anal. fine we can shove it back to the older generations as well.


i hate when people call the trans/driveshaft tunnel a CAT HUMP.



it just seems like the older guys hate 4th gens and their newfangled monikers.


btw 94+ a4 are all 4l60....93 and before were 700r4's.

Those crazy fourth gens with their fuel injection and overdrive and good emissions and good fuel mileage and features...who would want that

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

talk about anal. fine we can shove it back to the older generations as well.


i hate when people call the trans/driveshaft tunnel a CAT HUMP.



it just seems like the older guys hate 4th gens and their newfangled monikers.


btw 94+ a4 are all 4l60....93 and before were 700r4's.

Who calls it a cat hump? And 94+A4s are 4L60-Es I believe.

[91chevywt]

I always thought a 4L60=700r4, while a 4L60-E was the electronic version. I know the non-electric 4 speed OD in my truck is referred to as a 4L60 (manual) and I thought the term was interchangable with 700r4. I know 4=4 speeds, L=longitude as in RWD trans, 60 is the torque-handling rating, and E=Electronically controlled

[jims69camaro]

Originally Posted by 91chevywt

I always thought a 4L60=700r4, while a 4L60-E was the electronic version. I know the non-electric 4 speed OD in my truck is referred to as a 4L60 (manual) and I thought the term was interchangable with 700r4. I know 4=4 speeds, L=longitude as in RWD trans, 60 is the torque-handling rating, and E=Electronically controlled

this is correct info. thereafter, a computer was added and they added the E on the end for electronic-controlled. i would prefer a non-computer controlled model, since i've never had a problem with them. add in a computer and all of a sudden i need a laptop to interface with my car instead of a screwdriver. it's not that we hate modern cars, it's just that we got used to the old fashioned way of interfacing with them. change can be good, but people will always balk at it.

there is a lot of hair splitting going on in this thread. just thought i'd throw that in.

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by 91chevywt

I always thought a 4L60=700r4, while a 4L60-E was the electronic version. I know the non-electric 4 speed OD in my truck is referred to as a 4L60 (manual) and I thought the term was interchangable with 700r4. I know 4=4 speeds, L=longitude as in RWD trans, 60 is the torque-handling rating, and E=Electronically controlled

You are exactly right. The TH350 can be called the 3L60 and the TH400 can be the 3L80 as well.

[NastyEllEssWon]

meh i meant 4l60 as a generic term....didnt know i had to go full on and bust out the E on there. i know the non electrical one as the 700r4

[BigAls87Z28]

GM just changed the terminology that's all.

[BonzoHansen]

Originally Posted by WildBillyT

You are exactly right. The TH350 can be called the 3L60 and the TH400 can be the 3L80 as well.

I don't think GM ever called them that. All my GM books say TH350, etc. How would you differentiate the TH350C?

Originally Posted by 91chevywt

Those crazy fourth gens with their fuel injection and overdrive and good emissions and good fuel mileage and features...who would want that

A lot of guys do. I have a t56 in my Z and plan a still TBD LS style engine & overdrive auto trans in my 67.

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

talk about anal. fine we can shove it back to the older generations as well.

The day I get it "shoved back" by an uneducated pot smoking woe-is-me-the-police-are-mean-to-me **** up I'll call you. One can chose to communicate effectively or like a raving dumbass. We all know you've chosen the latter.

[LTb1ow]

Sweet

[Mike]

[BigAls87Z28]

Originally Posted by NastyEllEssWon

talk about anal. fine we can shove it back to the older generations as well.


i hate when people call the trans/driveshaft tunnel a CAT HUMP.



it just seems like the older guys hate 4th gens and their newfangled monikers.


btw 94+ a4 are all 4l60....93 and before were 700r4's.

Cat hump does not refer to the trans/driveshaft tunnel. It refers to the hump just fore of the passanger seat that was put there from the large cats of the 80's. It would have cost GM 100-200 million dollars to retool the floorpans to remove the hump for late model third gens and 4th gens when it was no longer needed. The number is a rough est. from Scott Settlemire.

[LTb1ow]

I knew it. Trans hump, lol

[Mike]

Originally Posted by BigAls87Z28

Cat hump does not refer to the trans/drive shaft tunnel. It refers to the hump just fore of the passenger seat that was put there from the large cats of the 80's. It would have cost GM 100-200 million dollars to retool the floor pans to remove the hump for late model third gens and 4th gens when it was no longer needed. The number is a rough est. from Scott Settlemire.

DING DING ...... car would have had to go through all the crash testing standards all over again due to changing the floor of a uni body

[Mike]

maybe he is referring to lady lumps?

[sweetbmxrider]

bonzo!

[WildBillyT]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

I don't think GM ever called them that. All my GM books say TH350, etc. How would you differentiate the TH350C?

A lot of guys do. I have a t56 in my Z and plan a still TBD LS style engine & overdrive auto trans in my 67.

The day I get it "shoved back" by an uneducated pot smoking woe-is-me-the-police-are-mean-to-me **** up I'll call you. One can chose to communicate effectively or like a raving dumbass. We all know you've chosen the latter.

Didn't say it was right. Notice I said CAN be called...

[91chevywt]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

A lot of guys do. I have a t56 in my Z and plan a still TBD LS style engine & overdrive auto trans in my 67.

Lol I was being facetious...I'm swapping an LT1 and 700r4 into my '79.

[baddest434]

Originally Posted by BonzoHansen

The day I get it "shoved back" by an uneducated pot smoking woe-is-me-the-police-are-mean-to-me **** up I'll call you. One can chose to communicate effectively or like a raving dumbass. We all know you've chosen the latter.

nice

[PolarBear]

Did anyone mention "rim" as in look at deez new rimz that I got on my car when they are actually referring to the wheel?