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			looks like my dads 02 monte's guna have to get this taken care of when we get the letter ! 
 
(CNN) -- The possibility of engine fires has prompted General Motors to recall nearly 1.5 million passenger sedans manufactured between 1997 and 2003, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration announced Monday. 
 
The recall covers certain mid- and full-size passenger sedans under GM's (GM, Fortune 500) Chevrolet, Buick, Oldsmobile and Pontiac brands. 
 
The recalled vehicles all have naturally aspirated 3.8 liter V6 engines -- that is, engines that uses atmospheric pressure to bring in air for combustion rather than a mechanical blower -- according to documents filed with federal regulators by GM last week. 
 
On Friday, the federal government acknowledged the filing and agreed to the plan. 
 
 
The problem involves a potential for oil to leak on the exhaust manifold during hard braking. When a car operates under normal conditions, the manifold can get very hot. Oil that runs below the manifold's heat shield could ignite and spread to plastic channels that hold spark plug wires. 
 
The company recommends as a solution for the problem a change in the bracket that holds spark-plug wires, which will be done free of charge. Owners and dealers affected by the new recall will be notified by letter next month with details. 
 
The vehicles involved are 1997-2003 Buick Regals; 1998-2003 Chevrolet Luminas, Monte Carlos and Impalas; 1998-1999 Oldsmobile Intrigues; and 1997-2003 Pontiac Grand Prix. 
 
GM issued a similar recall on a similar engine in 2008, according to the company's filing with the government. That problem was traced to a faulty gasket on the engine rocker cover.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			does the bracket mount on a valve cover bolt? thats probably why... 
 
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			Doesn't surprise me. They should recall the ****ing intake gaskets.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				Doesn't surprise me. They should recall the ****ing intake gaskets. 
			
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my buddy just sold his 2000 impala 3.8. we did the valve cover gaskets though. oh gm you are awesome at making cars.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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				nooo!!!! thats like guaranteed maintenance at 100K   
my buddy just sold his 2000 impala 3.8. we did the valve cover gaskets though. oh gm you are awesome at making cars.  
			
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they recalled the dexcool which ate them awhile back. you missed the mark in like 07
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Yeah. I am re-gasketing the top end of my GTP this weekend. 
			
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			and the best part about this is that has never been a fire reported 
 
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				and the best part about this is that has never been a fire reported 
 
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				I find that hard to believe. My cousin's Grand Prix burned to the ground in her driveway. 
 
 
 
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				was it a gtp? 
 
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			lol just search "grand prix fire" on youtube! i just happend across one the other night, and when i looked at the related videos there were a bunch!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				lol just search "grand prix fire" on youtube! i just happend across one the other night, and when i looked at the related videos there were a bunch! 
			
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			It truly amazes me that this is such big news. Did this really have to be on every news channel and at the top of major websites? This does not help the American people restore confidence in GM
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			then again ive seen more recalls issued by toyota with similar sized recalls 
 
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			dammit. I just changed the V/C gaskets on the prix b/c they were leaking.   To you GM   
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				dammit. I just changed the V/C gaskets on the prix b/c they were leaking.   To you GM   
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