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04-27-2009, 01:58 PM
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Think the LS1 popularity will....
die down w/ the 5th gen. here. Kinda like the LT1 did. As soon as some of the guys saw the performance differance they unloaded the LT's for the LS.
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04-27-2009, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
die down w/ the 5th gen. here. Kinda like the LT1 did. As soon as some of the guys saw the performance differance they unloaded the LT's for the LS.
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There are only a handful (ok maybe a bit more) of people on this website that can swing a new car payment  Some just don't like it, and some don't need it. So no worries.
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04-27-2009, 02:04 PM
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Not worried was just curious what you guys thought. I like the car and could afford the payment but dont want them...Plus id end up voiding the warranty w/ mods lol.
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04-27-2009, 02:06 PM
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New almost always trumps old. It shouldn't be all about the engine anyway. There are always better engines.
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04-27-2009, 02:18 PM
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I jumped on that band wagon two years ago. But in all honesty, it's pretty much the same engine. Other than bigger displacement the other differences aren't that big. Lingenfelter makes a module now so you don't have to tear the block down and put in a 24xx reluctor wheel to retro fit it in the late 4th Gens.
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04-27-2009, 02:21 PM
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Yea I guess it still is a LS based engine.
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04-27-2009, 02:40 PM
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11 Second Club / I <3 LT1s
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
die down w/ the 5th gen. here. Kinda like the LT1 did. As soon as some of the guys saw the performance differance they unloaded the LT's for the LS.
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There were quite a few LT1's at the meet on Saturday...If that's any indication, I think the LS1's are here to stay. Also the LS1 aftermarket>LT1 aftermarket.
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04-27-2009, 02:41 PM
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I don't agree. You can use all GenI bottom end stuff on the LT1s, can't say that about the LS1s....
Its also much easier to run a GenI intake on an LT1 too.
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04-27-2009, 02:43 PM
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LSwhatever
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But they make LSX retro fit kits. Not much of putting a gen I or II into an LSX based vehicle. Unless your Doug.
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2001 WS6: SDPC LS7 Shortblock, L92 heads upgraded for .600 lift,
L76 intake, Nick Williams TB, Comp Cams 224/228 .581/.588 114+2LSA,
1 7/8 LT's, GMMG
waiting for some boost
2003 Silverado 1500HD
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04-27-2009, 02:44 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Retro kits as in putting LS1s into LT1 cars?
Thats just cause people don't like driving around in sebrings...
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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04-27-2009, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Shownomercy
Retro kits as in putting LS1s into LT1 cars?
Thats just cause people don't like driving around in sebrings...
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lol....LT1 aftermarket is pretty much dead, and has been for awhile...You can kinda tell when you cant find anyone in the area that actually tunes them.
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04-27-2009, 02:48 PM
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Ayatollah of Rock N Rolla / Admin
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They will phase out some of the less popular LS1 parts for stuff for the latest and greatest platforms. Yes, some parts will be backwards compatible but not all of them will be.
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04-27-2009, 02:50 PM
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LSwhatever
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Sebring LT1 is the new hawtness.
But the the newer engines will be retro fitted into an older platform. But you don't see that much (well at least I don') of an older engine being put in a new car.
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2001 WS6: SDPC LS7 Shortblock, L92 heads upgraded for .600 lift,
L76 intake, Nick Williams TB, Comp Cams 224/228 .581/.588 114+2LSA,
1 7/8 LT's, GMMG
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2003 Silverado 1500HD
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04-27-2009, 02:57 PM
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Mongo the Meet Coordinator
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
lol....LT1 aftermarket is pretty much dead, and has been for awhile...You can kinda tell when you cant find anyone in the area that actually tunes them.
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That is just tuners being lazy and or trying to stay with the current demand.
The aftermarket for the LT1 is pretty good IMO considering it came out in 93 and only lasted 4 years.
Name it and its out there.
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Originally Posted by KirkEvil
repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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04-27-2009, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shownomercy
That is just tuners being lazy and or trying to stay with the current demand.
The aftermarket for the LT1 is pretty good IMO considering it came out in 93 and only lasted 4 years.
Name it and its out there.
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LT1 came out in 1992. Turn in your fanboii card at the door.
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04-27-2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
LT1 came out in 1992. Turn in your fanboii card at the door.
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LOL, will do. Does this mean I can be whatever fanboii I want now???
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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04-27-2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by WildBillyT
LT1 came out in 1992. Turn in your fanboii card at the door.
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Yea I think he meant in the fbody
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04-27-2009, 03:32 PM
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repo bigals turd gen and part it out to a loving home
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04-27-2009, 03:40 PM
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well if my tpi conversion doesnt run good and i cant fix it and the car runs like it did last year then its being "taken-care-of" and im buying an ls1.
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04-27-2009, 04:45 PM
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yeah i was about to say if you want something for an lt1, it is there. tuners are more popular for ls1's since obd-II is much easier and more affordable to work with. its the 3rd gens that are hurting.
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04-27-2009, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetbmxrider
yeah i was about to say if you want something for an lt1, it is there. tuners are more popular for ls1's since obd-II is much easier and more affordable to work with. its the 3rd gens that are hurting.
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some 95's,96 and 97 LT1's are also OBDII and I think theres one guy in PA that does them.
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04-27-2009, 07:13 PM
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04-27-2009, 08:00 PM
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Lol yea lets not go into this one again....Owned 2 LT1's loved them in there time.....but.....
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04-27-2009, 10:48 PM
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the ls1 has gained just as much popularity as the gen 1 small blocks. even classic car tuners are utilizing the early ls1 blocks because as the newer stuff comes out our motors become easily affordable. theyre also very easy to work on and get great gas mileage even when modded.
no the ls1 is here to stay. gen 1's and 2's are working their way out the door. we just need the old stubborn stuck in their ways guys to die in the next 10 years and itll be at the bottom of the river with the lt1. the only difference is the lt1 is doing what it was meant to do
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04-28-2009, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MonmouthCtyAntz
some 95's,96 and 97 LT1's are also OBDII and I think theres one guy in PA that does them.
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yeah i know that but finding someone to tune them is hard and finding someone good is even harder.
i just can't wait till my boat anchor is all nasty and able to do high 12's like a stock almighty 
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