Pulled Over Tonight....Ticket Questions - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

NastyEllEssWon · 05-17-2009, 03:32 AM

Okay I was heading down 130 to get on 195 from robbinsville. I was pulled over by a Washington TWP police dept officer around 7:30. His reason is that my car is too loud. I got two tickets....

39: 8-6 Failure To Display Inspection Certificate
39: 3-70 Loud Muffler

Anyone know the roundabout areas of how much the muffler ticket is gonna cost me? I know the failure to inspect is like 130 bucks...any help would be nice.....anyone know if they can actually ticket me with this without doing a decibel field test???

edit: i also JUST got my exhaust done yesterday by a local and well known shop throughout the state and automotive field and its much quieter than my open header....bah anyone know anything on this statute

dmheer08 · 05-17-2009, 06:59 AM

idk but two summers ago i got a noise ordinance in seaside for the same thing that was 200 bucks, then a month later i went back thinking i would be fine and got another one. 400 dollars down the toilet FML

NastyEllEssWon · 05-17-2009, 07:02 AM

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39:3-70. Mufflers

Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and annoying smoke, and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, bypass or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway.

i think i can beat that

Mike · 05-17-2009, 07:06 AM

what shop did the work, some say on the receipt that they did "50 state legal work" or something to that effect

V · 05-17-2009, 07:08 AM

my one loud exhaust ticket was $42, non-shore town. i got pulled over that time because i pulled out of a parallel parking spot leaving work and sped up to 50 in a 25mph school zone(8pm), just happened to cut off a cop when i pulled out. Supervisor liked my car and exhaust(95 caddy STS) so he had the driver cop just cut me a break. i was thankful. and yea, no inspection used to be 123... i had several.

NastyEllEssWon · 05-17-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike

what shop did the work, some say on the receipt that they did "50 state legal work" or something to that effect

mufflex did the work but i dont wanna go dragging them into this

Mike · 05-17-2009, 07:17 AM

not really dragging them into anything, all they did was weld up what you brought them

NJ Torque · 05-17-2009, 07:20 AM

I think your gonna have to eat both of them...

Mike · 05-17-2009, 07:22 AM

just be glad they didnt check for cats........

NastyEllEssWon · 05-17-2009, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike

just be glad they didnt check for cats........

haha im thinking about just eating them, found out its 130 for the inspection and 55 for the loud muffler. especially since he was being nice when he wrote these

Saitin · 05-17-2009, 07:36 AM

go get it inspected with the current exhaust and that should beat it.
BTW i'm heading to ron's around 2-3 to finish my car if you wanna ride down drop me a message on aim or something.

NJSPEEDER · 05-17-2009, 12:20 PM

Inspection after the fact is no help. The car was not inspected at the time either ticket was written. Be glad the officer played nice, failure to inspect can get your vehicle towed if they can reasonably deem it "unsafe". The continuing logic being, if he didn't inspect or put a muffler on it there is a reasonable deduction that there are other dangerous/illegal parts/omissions on the vehicle.

Eat it, pay the fines. I don't believe either carry any points so it will be the least painful solution.

NastyEllEssWon · 05-17-2009, 01:14 PM

yeah i couldve got hit with a cat ticket, tint ticket, no front license plate ticket, my tires are at 3/32nds but they can squeeze that into a ticket for sure as well

i thought the muffler ticket would be more than 55 bucks. looks like ill take the advice and eat it guys. thanks a lot

jims69camaro · 05-17-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NJSPEEDER

Eat it, pay the fines. I don't believe either carry any points so it will be the least painful solution.

normally, i'd say fight it. since you think the police did you a favor then the right thing to do is to do them a favor. not guilty makes them appear in court and then they have to go through everything they did and didn't do at the traffic stop. let your conscience be your guide.

maroman88 · 05-17-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jims69camaro

normally, i'd say fight it. since you think the police did you a favor then the right thing to do is to do them a favor. not guilty makes them appear in court and then they have to go through everything they did and didn't do at the traffic stop. let your conscience be your guide.

do the cop another favor... he gets OT for court if hes not scheduled for that shift

lol

MyFirstZ · 05-17-2009, 09:33 PM

i got a ticket for "muffler in non good working order" so i took pictures and brought a copy of my inspection reciept from two day before showing it was fine. And then i found out it was going to be dismissed for not having any time of reading on it. The cop said it as loud. No decible gauge or whatever

DaSkinnyGuy · 05-17-2009, 09:39 PM

The exhaust ticket is so over done, as long as you have cats and a muffler and they never did a dB meter check then its BS they give you a ticket, no human ear is going to know what 95dB sounds like at 2 feet behind a car at approx 2k rpm.

I got pulled over for loud exhaust when i had my V6, i had headers high flow cat, and flowmaster catback, i told the cop i have a cat a muffler and i recently passed inspection with this exhaust setup and he let me off.

current NJ law:
N.J. Stat. @ 39:3-70 (2002) [Mufflers]

Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped with a [muffler] in good working order and in constant operation to prevent [excessive or unusual noise and] annoying smoke, AND NO PERSON SHALL MODIFY THE EXHAUST SYSTEM OF A MOTOR VEHICLE IN A MANNER SO THAT THE EXHAUST SYSTEM EMITS IN EXCESS OF NINETY-FIVE DECIBELS AS MEASURED BY THE SOCIETY OF AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEERS (SAE) STANDARD J1169 ( May 1998 ). IT SHALL NOT BE A VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION UNLESS PROVEN BY PROPER AUTHORITIES THAT THE EXHAUST SYTEM MODIFICATION RESULTS IN NOISE AMPLIFICATION IN EXCESS OF NINETY-FIVE DECIBELS UNDER THE PRESCRIBED SAE TEST STANDARD.

A COURT MAY DISMISS ANY ACTION FOR WHICH A PERSON IS PROSECUTED FOR OPERATING A VEHICLE IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION IF IT IS FOUND THAT THE DEFENDANT HAD REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT OPERATED IN VIOLATION OF THIS SUBSECTION.

[and] n No person shall use a [muffler] cut-out, bypass or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway.

Mike · 05-17-2009, 09:41 PM

pointless, he doesn't have cats

NJ346 · 05-17-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cbrrmike

pointless, he doesn't have cats

but the cop didn't know that. If he takes the car and it passes inspection(whether he puts cats on and gets it legally inspected or buys a sticker), I think that would get the ticket dropped.

Mike · 05-17-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NJNETSFAN

but the cop didn't know that. If he takes the car and it passes inspection(whether he puts cats on and gets it legally inspected or buys a sticker), I think that would get the ticket dropped.

no, it wouldnt, the inspection would be dated after the ticket..

and if he goes there bitching about them not using a meter, nothing will stop them from walking into the parking lot as he is leaving and using one, at that point finding the lack of cats

Tru2Chevy · 05-17-2009, 09:57 PM

....not to mention the fact that the officer didn't write him for tint and no front plate.

- Justin

98tadriver · 05-18-2009, 02:22 PM

jay, are you sure youre not leaving out any details ? lol. did you do anything to get the cops attention? ive had the LT's/ory/staightpipe on the t/a and have never been pulled over for it being loud, theyve even followed me for a while too

JW · 05-18-2009, 02:27 PM

I got pulled over for being loud, got a warning for the loud muffler and then they impounded my car for expired registration... forgot to renew it a week late doh! Was probably 3 years ago.

JW

BurninrubberGT · 05-18-2009, 02:47 PM

lol, funny story regarding exhaust tickets, awhile ago a cop pulled my friend over and told him him exhaust "looks" loud and is lucky he didnt give him a ticket

NastyEllEssWon · 05-18-2009, 03:48 PM

haha well there was a small stretch of spirited driving the police officer witnessed. he said he didnt get a chance to radar me, so he doesnt know if i was speeding and didnt feel that my ''offense'' warranted a careless driving....so he wrote me a couple bs tickets to feed the machine that is known as washington twp.

all i did was get up to the speed limit in a spirited fashion

the cop understood i wasnt trying to do anything crazy