Wiring DPDT & Cutout. - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

Jersey Mike · 10-04-2009, 11:06 PM

Answer in post 14: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpos...2&postcount=14

How do I wire this all up to the 6 prongs on the back of the switch?

There are 4 wires coming off of the cutout--Red, White, Green, Black.
From messing around with the wires, I've learned that Red to Negative & Green to Positive will OPEN the cutout.
Red to Positive & Green to Negative will CLOSE the cutout.
I don't know what the black or white wires do.

It's going in the ashtray, by the cigarette lighter.

Czop418 · 10-04-2009, 11:13 PM

Hmm heres a guess.

Black Power
White Neutral
Red Common
Green Ground.

Jersey Mike · 10-04-2009, 11:16 PM

I need a little more specific help--you can't underestimate my inexperience when it comes to Electrical.

I'm looking for specific colors to specific prongs -- ie: "Red to Top Left"

Czop418 · 10-04-2009, 11:26 PM

Here try this.

Black is your top left. White is your top right.

Red Middle Left . Green middle right.

Than you jump top left to bottom right

Then you jump top right to bottom left.

Jersey Mike · 10-04-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Czop418

Here try this.

Black is your top left . White is your top right.

Red Middle Left . Green middle right.

Than you jump top left to bottom right . Then you jump top right to bottom left.

so I dont need to splice into the cig lighter or run a ground to a screw or anything?

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 12:05 AM

Here's what I had thought:

*Green ______________________ *Red
*Run a wire from the Cig lighter __*Run a wire to a ground
*Red ________________________*Green

Leaving the Black & White wires out of the equation(since the cutout opened & closed without them..)

but, I'm not sure how that'd work

Czop418 · 10-05-2009, 12:20 AM

Oh damn sorry what i told you is wrong damn im tired. Let Me think about this for a moment.

Middle Left Is you + Middle Right is your - Which is from your cigarette lighter

Than hook your Red to top left

Than Green to top right.

Than just jump them.

Red to bottom left

And green to bottom right. The other 2 wires are not needed its only if you were gonna use a different switch.

Czop418 · 10-05-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

Here's what I had thought:

*Green ______________________ *Red
*Run a wire from the Cig lighter __*Run a wire to a ground
*Red ________________________*Green

Leaving the Black & White wires out of the equation(since the cutout opened & closed without them..)

but, I'm not sure how that'd work

Thats exactly right. The point of a DPDT is to reverse the polarity.

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 09:03 AM

^^ Alright, I'm going to go try it now & hopefully that works.

FlyingDutchman · 10-05-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

^^ Alright, I'm going to go try it now & hopefully that works.

lmk i could probably get a pic of mine

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 03:43 PM

Didn't work.

The ground wire is good & so is the + wire; I tested them with an LED strip & it lit them up just fine. So the problem is either:

A) There is some caulking on the switch & a tiny bit on the base of some prongs (needed to hold switch to ashtray, caulk was the only thing at my disposal at the time). It's only a tiny bit on the outside base of the prongs, but maybe that is not stopping the electricity from flowing?
B) The switch I bought from RadioShack could is bad?
C) There were 6 or so threads on each wire coming off the cutout. Two of them on one wire twisted off--since they're so delicate--while I was twisting them onto the holes in the switch. So, only 2 threads went to each prong for the Green wire. Could there have not been sufficient threads on those two prongs that caused it to not work?
D) None of the above. Just wired incorrectly?

Tru2Chevy · 10-05-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

C) There were 6 or so threads on each wire coming off the cutout. Two of them on one wire twisted off--since they're so delicate--while I was twisting them onto the holes in the switch. So, only 2 threads went to each prong for the Green wire. Could there have not been sufficient threads on those two prongs that caused it to not work?

This may not be the reason for it not to work, but it's far from the ideal setup.

Do you have extra wire? If so, cut a few inches off of the green and red wire lengths and use that to jump from corner to corner on the switch. then run the green and red wire left from the cutout to the corners of the switch as directed above.

Understand?

- Justin

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru2Chevy

This may not be the reason for it not to work, but it's far from the ideal setup.

Do you have extra wire? If so, cut a few inches off of the green and red wire lengths and use that to jump from corner to corner on the switch. then run the green and red wire left from the cutout to the corners of the switch as directed above.

Understand?

- Justin

Ya, it's going to be tight because there's not much wire to work with, but she can probably spare a few inches.
To make sure I'm understanding this correctly, connect the criss-cross, then run the wire from the cutout to only one prong each, or to all four corners?

Czop418 · 10-05-2009, 10:13 PM

well you should go out and buy the right connectors for the wires it should look like this.

Then your final product should look like this

Tru2Chevy · 10-05-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Czop418

well you should go out and buy the right connectors for the wires it should look like this.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/Czop/Wiring.jpg

Then your final product should look like this

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/Czop/Wiring2.jpg

This is definitely the right way of doing it....

- Justin

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 10:20 PM

Wow, that looks so clean, so easy.
what are those connectors called, and do they simply slide over the prongs snuggly?

The pictures are very helpful.

Czop418 · 10-05-2009, 10:23 PM

Alot of people call em different things. Thats why i showed you what they look like. I call them Female Spades. Some people call them Female Terminals.

sweetbmxrider · 10-05-2009, 10:23 PM

spaded connectors, yes, you need to "crimp" them onto the wire though. google it up

Czop418 · 10-05-2009, 10:26 PM

Here ya go this might help you out step by step pictures on how too.

http://www.instructables.com/id/HOW-...-reversing-po/

Oh and by the way i would cut up wires and make your own harness. That way incase you do mess anything up your not messing with the cut out wires. And when your done just wire nut them together or get butt-end connectors.

Jersey Mike · 10-05-2009, 10:30 PM

awesome. thanks.

Saitin · 10-08-2009, 09:09 AM

did you get it to work?

Jersey Mike · 10-08-2009, 06:45 PM

Haven't tried. Enjoying the "open" position too much

Going back home tomorrow, so I will buying the spade connectors & trying again then.

Saitin · 10-08-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Mike

Haven't tried. Enjoying the "open" position too much

Going back home tomorrow, so I will buying the spade connectors & trying again then.

I tried the way they said to on my older switch and motor and it worked out fine.

Jersey Mike · 10-10-2009, 05:09 PM

Thanks Czop. I did it using spade connectors & added an extra (cross) wire like the pictures show and it now works.
I appreciate the help guys. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Czop418

well you should go out and buy the right connectors for the wires it should look like this.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/Czop/Wiring.jpg

Then your final product should look like this

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y186/Czop/Wiring2.jpg